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10" Simplicity Moldboard Plow Retrofit

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Hello friends!

Anyone here have experience with one of these? From my research it appears to be of at least 1962 vintage.

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My friend gave it to me for free and I'm going to retrofit it for use on my 4016 with a 3-point drawbar. I'm curious how they perform, if shares and moldboards are still available, etc.

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This is my first time messing with a plow and I've done extensive research but still need some pointers. Thanks to dundee222 for giving me some already on my other thread on the tractor itself!

A member on the Deere forum did this retrofit already and I'm doing something similar to his but instead of clamping it directly on the drawbar with a plate, I'm going to use a clamp-on 2" receiver with a 2" square tube hitch on the plow to move it where I need it in relationship to the inner edge of the rear tire. This way I can move the receiver back to center for moving trailers or attaching other implements offset if needed - think of it as a universal tool bar of sorts.

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I threw the plow up on my workbench and leveled the beam horizontally and vertically and it looks like the landing setting is off as though to steer the plow towards the left rear tire. There is no landing adjustment so I checked it out a little closer and it appears that the two pieces of the frog were broken apart and welded back together sometime in the past. The moldboard wing of the frog has a big overlap over the landslide wing and caused the landslide to not sit flat against the frog (notice gradually increasing gap between the two the below pics).

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I figured I'd rather fix it now than attempt plowing with it as-is and risk fighting it the whole time so I blasted it apart and took it to work for sandblasting and surface finishing.

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Am I chasing something that isn't a problem? Has anyone ever added a landing adjustment to a plow that's never had it?

Thanks all!
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After sandblasting all the parts, it appears that the frog was not welded back together in the past. The dingleberry welds I was seeing on the inside of the frog are actually from where the outside of the two parts were MIG welded together at the factory and their wire ran through the gaps between them. I ended up MIG welding the seam on both sides of the frog as the factory welds were pretty thin. I shouldn't have any issues with it breaking in the future.

My research on the landing adjustment brought me to a Cub Cadet page with this info on the landing adjustment for a Brinly plow. It looks like a tab welded to the standard that's threaded for a stop-bolt to adjust the angle of the landslide. Easy enough to add to my plow.

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I took some 36-grit sanding discs to the share and moldboard and got them cleaned up. There's a lot of surface pits still and I hope they don't cause problems. I dressed the cutting edges of the share to a chisel point and they should slice nicely.

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I finally got the plow done after a week of putting time in on it after work - mostly drinking beer though so productivity was lost 😅

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In order to get the width of cut where it needed to be in relationship with the inside of the right rear tire, I cut the receiver tube off my drawbar and modified an Amazon bolt-on receiver so it could be moved anywhere on the drawbar. The receiver was made to bolt onto RV 4.5" square tube bumpers. I drilled another set of holes for my 2" tube and used shorter bolts. For the plow beam I welded shim plates inside a 2" tube, hammered it on over the plow beam, and drilled a 5/8" hole through it all for the hitch pin.

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To get the beam to be parallel with the ground, I shortened the depth adjuster by 1/2" per side. This raised the coulter mount with the beam so at the coulter's deepest setting it may only have 1" of penetration in the ground. I'm going to try it as-is but I have a feeling I'll be making a new longer coulter shank to get it deeper.

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As discussed earlier, there was originally no provision for landing adjustment on this plow so I added one. I drilled and tapped a 3/8" piece of flat stock for a 1/2" bolt and welded it to the standard. With the bolts loosened that hold the standard to the frog, I can adjust landing by backing out the bolt (into the frog), tightening the jam nut, and retightening the remaining bolts to rudder the plow to the right. If it needs to rudder to the left, I'll have problems.

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I have it setup so the geometry is good on 6" worth of blocks. I added another lift pin to my drawbar so after I make the first pass, I can just move the left lift arm to the higher pin and move the top link over to the next slot to compensate for being down in the furrow without having to mess with adjusting the lift arms themselves.

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I'm sure I'll be playing with adjustments on it's maiden voyage but it appears to be setup correctly so far. If the forecast is accurate, I'll be breaking ground this weekend and I'll have some more pics to share.
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It is fun to see your work and your research and historical knowledge is inspiring!
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It is fun to see your work and your research and historical knowledge is inspiring!
Thank you for the compliments sir! I definitely don't have any historical knowledge on much of this stuff but I do use Google to it's fullest extent researching everything I can.
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I think paint is a little premature here but maybe you'll get lucky. Once you get it dialed in and plowing true, you are going to have to weld the reciever tube solid to your 3 point drawbar. a plow can put a lot of sideways force on the tractor when it encounters a stone or root it would rather go around. Your clamp plate will not hold much when this happens.
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I think paint is a little premature here but maybe you'll get lucky. Once you get it dialed in and plowing true, you are going to have to weld the reciever tube solid to your 3 point drawbar. a plow can put a lot of sideways force on the tractor when it encounters a stone or root it would rather go around. Your clamp plate will not hold much when this happens.
I couldn't resist paint after I sandblasted everything and it was all clean. I agree with you on the receiver, I thought about drilling it out for leaf spring U-bolts instead of the lower plate.
I have the all parts to adapt a plow too. Just trying to get it on my short list. Your build is making me jealous. lol
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Using Google to educate one's self is clever learning. The old documents you find are also fun to see.
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I have the all parts to adapt a plow too. Just trying to get it on my short list. Your build is making me jealous. lol
I hear ya man, hard making time for these projects! I should have just bought a used Brinly and worked on it this winter and been better prepared but like a dummy I couldnt resist rushing to fully rebuild and custom fit a freebie oddball plow a week before garden time.

So don't be jealous yet, the fat lady hasn't sang and this thing might turn out to be a POS turd with pretty paint 😅 My luck I'll end up spending 4hrs cussing at it trying to dial it in or the beam will snap off and I'll have to rent a tiller from Home Depot to put a garden in.

I was hoping to plow this weekend but mothers day festivities put the kibosh on it.
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Using Google to educate one's self is clever learning. The old documents you find are also fun to see.
Google and the fine folks on this forum have been my only options for education on this project. I've been around tractors most of my life and I'm a heavy equipment mechanic now but nobody in my family has ever gardened and my friends that garden have sub-compact tractors with tillers. You say "moldboard plow" and everyone looks at you like you do drugs.

I get a kick out of the old documents and sales brochures for this stuff too. They make me want to go back to simpler times.

I've planted a few dozen plants in my lifetime and a quarter of them died so this vegetable garden will be a learning experience and require more Google time.
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I took today off work to get some uninterrupted garden time. I staked out the garden plot and got started with the tractor.

The first pass was digging to China at 12" wide and 9" deep. After much adjusting, making it worse, then making it better again, I got some nice cuts. I was fighting the TCV relief off and on and figure either the relief needs to be adjusted or plowing sod in my soil is just that difficult. I tried narrowing the cuts down to 6-8" but the sod wouldn't turn over, it would just turn it on it's side and sometimes fell back in the furrow. It seemed to like cutting 10" wide so I put it back and adjusted the depth to a consistent 6". After getting the depth right, it was difficult getting the plow to suck into the ground when starting a new pass. I got a technique down using downpressure to get it started then letting float take over from there. The landing adjustment made a huge difference and got it trailing straight behind the tractor after two adjustments. I wrapped up with squaring off the edges of the plot with the plow. Final measurements come in at 40' wide and 60' deep. Should be way more than I need.

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Quick vid:

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ROCK ON! Are you plowing in high range? That would explain the relief valve opening.
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The video showed that you had the turf rolling over very nicely. It's one of those things that you just have to play with to figure it out. You have it dialed in nicely IMO. Thanks for posting.
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ROCK ON! Are you plowing in high range? That would explain the relief valve opening.
It was in low range at full throttle. The plow stalled the travel motor several times, the tires never spun, and the Onan didn't lug down very much so it seemed weak to me but this is my first outing with a moldboard plow and loaded tires so I dont have anything to compare to. I might bring a gauge and test hose home from work and try it again in the back 40 and see if the relief is popping off early.
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The video showed that you had the turf rolling over very nicely. It's one of those things that you just have to play with to figure it out. You have it dialed in nicely IMO. Thanks for posting.
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Thanks Harry, it took a good hour of trying different adjustments to get there but the last 10' of rows made the frustration worthit. I will say it's quite a juggling act with the adjustment on the plow and the 3pt top link adjustment. The plow was very sensitive to top link adjustments.
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That would be a fair guess. Although, even with the valve adjusted to specs, it will open given enough traction. Don't expect the engine to die much, especially at full scream as the pump only uses about 10-12 hp. I have a full time gauge on my 446 and took second place amongst 15 tractors in a garden tractor pull here a couple of years ago [in the stock class]. With a gauge, you can pull until the pressure threatens to pop the valve, than back off some on the travel lever. The tall tires did the rest. The comments/questions I got afterwards was "Hey, Cases aren't supposed to pull worth a damm." The rule for 23" tall tires was put into place for the following year. LOL
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That would be a fair guess. Although, even with the valve adjusted to specs, it will open given enough traction. Don't expect the engine to die much, especially at full scream as the pump only uses about 10-12 hp. I have a full time gauge on my 446 and took second place amongst 15 tractors in a garden tractor pull here a couple of years ago [in the stock class]. With a gauge, you can pull until the pressure threatens to pop the valve, than back off some on the travel lever. The tall tires did the rest. The comments/questions I got afterwards was "Hey, Cases aren't supposed to pull worth a damm." The rule for 23" tall tires was put into place for the following year. LOL
The Cub boys must have have been quite tickled about that rule change. 2nd place out of 15 is impressive for hydraulic drive! That makes sense though, I didn't think I would have great traction considering I'm not even running wheel weights.
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Liked! Subscribed! I am one of the rototiller guys but I have to stand up and walk behind (for now).
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Liked! Subscribed! I am one of the rototiller guys but I have to stand up and walk behind (for now).
Thanks sir! I'm sure a tiller is great if you have an established garden already. I would like to see how a tiller would handle my sod if it weren't rolled over with the plow.
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