3014 vanguard engine won't start

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RLO

Discussion Starter · 4 mo ago

Hello as I am new to this forum.
I have a 3014 vanguard twin 14hp.
Model #294447 Type 1145-A2
After snow blowing with my SB38 snowcaster the other day my GT won't start.
I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, spark plugs and a new battery
It just back fires through the carburetor now when I try starting it.
Getting good spark.
We did a cold compression check on it and #2 cylinder had 100psi and #1 cylinder had 150psi.
Any help would be awesome!

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #2 · 4 mo ago (Edited)

3014 vanguard problems.
Won't start
Backfires through the carburetor
Model #294447 type 1145-A2

Eric2.0

· #3 · 4 mo ago

I'm new here too, couple weeks ago. Great group, lots of help here. Welcome.

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a66coup289

· #4 · 4 mo ago

Welcome. Let us know what problems you are having and someone is likely to know what to do.

Gordy

· #5 · 4 mo ago

Hello and welcome to the group

Cheers,
Gordy

bigman

· #6 · 4 mo ago

Hello RLO
Welcome to our site
We need to know your problems with your engine
We have alot of members here and likely someone has had the same problems with their engine.
I don't have any vanguard engines in my fleet
PLEASE enjoy your time here and thanks for joining our group.

bigman

k0jdd

· #7 · 4 mo ago

Welcome

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Gordy

· #8 · 4 mo ago

I recall stories of some strange things happening when the diodes fail in the kill wiring harness. The VG's use 2 magneto coils powered by magnets on the flywheel, with a Y harness to the ignition switch, which grounds out the coils when turned to the off position. This Y harness has 2 diodes in it to keep the coils from cross feeding each other. If one of the diodes failed in the closed position, one coil could back feed the other out of time?

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Hey Bob, This Odyssey that I just got is really challenging me.... When I got it running it was not firing on the RH bank, it would run, but very rough.. I bought 2 new coils, installed them, polished the rust off the flywheel, and air gapped them to spec (.008") ok, it now "sounds" a little...

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #9 · 4 mo ago

Thanks for the welcome!!

bigman said:
Hello RLO
Welcome to our site
We need to know your problems with your engine
We have alot of members here and likely someone has had the same problems with their engine.
I don't have any vanguard engines in my fleet
PLEASE enjoy your time here and thanks for joining our group.

bigman

Since the last time I used my tractor blowing snow it won't start.
I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, spark plugs and bought a new battery.
While trying to start it it backfires back up through the carb.
I am getting good spark.
We did a compression check on it and #2 cylinder had 100psi
#1 cylinder had 150psi.
Not sure if the pressure relief valve broke or gaskets are worn out somewhere or if I just need a valve adjustment.
I have total permanent disability and the thought of shoveling snow and walking behind a mower is not good.
Not looking for pitty, I just need to get my tractor back up and running if I kind of know what to tell a repair shop.
Thanks.
I have went through most of the 3014 briggs vanguard posts on your website and I must say that I have learned a lot already.

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #10 · 4 mo ago

Eric2.0 said:
I'm new here too, couple weeks ago. Great group, lots of help here. Welcome.

Thanks and for sure!!

RLO

Discussion Starter · #11 · 4 mo ago

k0jdd said:
Welcome

Tips for newcomers...

Please go to your member profile and list your location. This helps when you want to price, sell, or buy something.

Detailed instructions can be found here --> https://casecoltingersoll.com/showthread.php/89291-How-to-add-location-to-your-profile

Please resist the temptation to 'Look with your mouth'. 👍
The search box is on the TOP of every page.

Please take the time to at least scan the titles of the Frequently Asked Questions before you ask one of them.

Case Colt Ingersoll Tractors

casecoltingersoll.com

Visit the technical library and see what a wide range type of information is available there.

Case Colt Ingersoll Tractors

A forum community dedicated to Colt, Case and Ingersoll tractors owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!

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Thanks and done!!

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bigman

· #12 · 4 mo ago

Now that's just what we need to help you out
How was the engine running before it stop running ?
Do you have fresh gas ? have you checked your timing?

---------------------------------
Brian Hildreth
President
Salem Power Equipment, LLC
Plymouth, MI 48170
734-649-1781
---------------------------------------
Give Brian a call or write him a message if he doesn't answer this thread
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Since the last time I used my tractor blowing snow it won't start.
I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, spark plugs and bought a new battery.
While trying to start it it backfires back up through the carb.
I am getting good spark.
We did a compression check on it and #2 cylinder had 100psi
#1 cylinder had 150psi.
Not sure if the pressure relief valve broke or gaskets are worn out somewhere or if I just need a valve adjustment.
I have total permanent disability and the thought of shoveling snow and walking behind a mower is not good.
Not looking for pitty, I just need to get my tractor back up and running if I kind of know what to tell a repair shop.
Thanks.
I have went through most of the 3014 briggs vanguard posts on your website and I must say that I have learned a lot already.

bigman

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #13 · 4 mo ago

bigman said:
Now that's just what we need to help you out
How was the engine running before it stop running ?
Do you have fresh gas ? have you checked your timing?

---------------------------------
Brian Hildreth
President
Salem Power Equipment, LLC
Plymouth, MI 48170
734-649-1781
---------------------------------------
Give Brian a call or write him a message if he doesn't answer this thread
-------------------------------------------
Since the last time I used my tractor blowing snow it won't start.
I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, spark plugs and bought a new battery.
While trying to start it it backfires back up through the carb.
I am getting good spark.
We did a compression check on it and #2 cylinder had 100psi
#1 cylinder had 150psi.
Not sure if the pressure relief valve broke or gaskets are worn out somewhere or if I just need a valve adjustment.
I have total permanent disability and the thought of shoveling snow and walking behind a mower is not good.
Not looking for pitty, I just need to get my tractor back up and running if I kind of know what to tell a repair shop.
Thanks.
I have went through most of the 3014 briggs vanguard posts on your website and I must say that I have learned a lot already.

bigman

It was running just fine that's why I'm a little flabbergasted.
Yes all new gas. I siphoned the old gas out. I do not have the tools to check the timing

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #14 · 4 mo ago

Gordy said:
Hello and welcome to the group

Cheers,
Gordy

Gordy said:
Hello and welcome to the group

Cheers,
Gordy

Hello and thanks!!

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #15 · 4 mo ago

RLO said:
It was running just fine that's why I'm a little flabbergasted.
Yes all new gas. I siphoned the old gas out. I do not have the tools to check the timing
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bigman said:
Now that's just what we need to help you out
How was the engine running before it stop running ?
Do you have fresh gas ? have you checked your timing?

---------------------------------
Brian Hildreth
President
Salem Power Equipment, LLC
Plymouth, MI 48170
734-649-1781
---------------------------------------
Give Brian a call or write him a message if he doesn't answer this thread
-------------------------------------------
Since the last time I used my tractor blowing snow it won't start.
I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, spark plugs and bought a new battery.
While trying to start it it backfires back up through the carb.
I am getting good spark.
We did a compression check on it and #2 cylinder had 100psi
#1 cylinder had 150psi.
Not sure if the pressure relief valve broke or gaskets are worn out somewhere or if I just need a valve adjustment.
I have total permanent disability and the thought of shoveling snow and walking behind a mower is not good.
Not looking for pitty, I just need to get my tractor back up and running if I kind of know what to tell a repair shop.
Thanks.
I have went through most of the 3014 briggs vanguard posts on your website and I must say that I have learned a lot already.

bigman

Thanks bigman!!
I will reach out to him if he doesn't respond.
Also I have purchased parts for my 3014 from Salem Power Equipment!
Great group, reasonable pricing and fast accurate shipping!

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Capt. Dan

· #16 · 4 mo ago

Welcome aboard RLO !! Great to have you here. Gordy has given you some good starting areas. Please keep us updated on your progress.

Enjoy the site
Capt Dan

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bhildret

· #17 · 4 mo ago

You say it has spark.

Does it fire if you feed some starting fluid or dribble a bit of gas in the carb?

Brian

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Harry

· #18 · 4 mo ago

Welcome to the CCI forum RLO. I hope your engine problem is something minor and your backup and running soon. ✌Harry

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RLO

Discussion Starter · #19 · 4 mo ago

bhildret said:
You say it has spark.

Does it fire if you feed some starting fluid or dribble a bit of gas in the carb?

Brian

Thanks for responding Brian.
I have tried that with a little gas a few times.
It does not.
It just back fires and pops the same as if I am trying to start it normally.

RLO

Discussion Starter · #20 · 4 mo ago

RLO said:
Thanks for responding Brian.
I have tried that with a little gas a few times.
It does not.
It just back fires and pops the same as if I am trying to start it normally.

We used a spark tester on it.

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