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I started a cadplans backhoe about 6 weeks ago and I'm ready for hydraulic hoses which are due in this week. the only real modification I made was to add a bend in the main boom of 30 degrees. I'll get it up and running and make sure I don't want to modify anything else before I paint it. The 3pt hitch handles the weight well but we'll see how it handles the digging. I'm trying to upload images but not having any luck. Once I figure that out I will do so.
 

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I'm not a big fan of three-point hitch mounted backhoes because of the stresses a backhoe puts on the hitch during the digging. I don't know what style of stabilizers your hoe design uses but the more weight that is on the stabilizer feet, the better. When digging, you are trying to pull dirt to the tractor but at the same time you are trying to pull the tractor to the dirt.

It's the stabilizers that keep the latter from happening.

It's not always easy to get the bulk of the tractor weight onto the stabilizers when using a three point. Having a proper sub-frame overcomes this problem but then it often turns the tractor into a single-purpose unit. Having a backhoe around is a joy. You will have to decide how often you are going to use it. Bart did what you are doing and is going to make a sub-frame for his and permanently fix the hoe.
 

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I think I have to have the pics on the web somehow then post them from there I still haven't figured it out.

I agree on the 3pt hitch issue with the backhoe. I plan on using the bosses in the rear "differential" then up forward to the quick hitch pins in the front to mount a sub frame of sorts along with the hitch. I want to make it easily removable yet take some strain off of the hitch. It would mount in a similar fashion as the sub frame used on the backhoe version of the 648 but not as complicated. I've chatted with Bart about his and he bent his top link connection. I'd like to avoid that.

thanks for the input all help is appreciated.

Tim
 

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Hydriv said:
Bart did what you are doing and is going to make a sub-frame for his and permanently fix the hoe.
Yes, that project is scheduled for 20XX? Fortunately for me I have a full blown Ingersoll LBH as backup until I get the sub-frame done. :sidelaugh:
 

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I recently missed one by a day on craigslist, it said runs good needs battery 3200 or bo I could've shot myself for not checking regularly. Am I right about the sub frame using the holes bossed into the rear "differential" then going forward bending out and up into the quiock hitch pins? I've only seen pictures.

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Tim

Any help on how to post pics hear and I'll throw some up I can't figure it out for the life of me
 

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Here are two hints for you.


1. Parts manuals are huge source of information on how these tractors are assembled. At some point, we will have those manuals here but in the meantime, Ingersoll's or Rotman's websites will suffice.

2. At the top of this forum's main page is a Help and Feedback section. How to post photos is covered there. :trink: :trink:
 

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Did I add the images incorrectly? I would rather have them come up on the page like that?

Thanks again
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timp said:
Did I add the images incorrectly? I would rather have them come up on the page like that?
You've got a doubled
tag, remove the duplicate at the beginning and at the end, then you should see it in "Preview".
 

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I ran everything through their paces using compressed air so I'm going against my better judgment and I'm going to paint it while I'm waiting on the hoses and fittings. that'll insure something needs to be changed lol. It's been a fun project and I'm only into it about 6 weeks now working on and off. I may use this one this summer and sell it to build another. I really like the way Bart's is up close to the back of the tractor. I did make a sort of third leg that fits into the rear most tubing (towards the tractor) of the frame that slides right in then out when you don't need it. This way it holds the hoe up like a tripod with the outriggers and I can back right up to it and hook it on without a lot of horseplay. I backed up to a drop off and lowered everything and it looks like it will give me just about 6' of depth although that's not really what I built it for it's more for the ton of landscaping I have to do and everyone needs a backhoe right.
 

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No one needs a backhoe until they get the chance to use one and see first-hand what it will do for them.
Some of us have needed backhoes for years despite not having a chance to use one. :sidelaugh:
 

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Bart said:
Hydriv said:
No one needs a backhoe until they get the chance to use one and see first-hand what it will do for them.
Some of us have needed backhoes for years despite not having a chance to use one. :sidelaugh:
Some of us have needed a backhoe for years but never realized it because of the lack of opportunity to experience what a hoe would do for us. A hoe is more of a precision tool than a loader is and can generate far greater breakout power than an FEL. A hoe can save a property owner a ton of back-breaking work.
 

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That's my exact thought on having it as well as it's a fun project. It doesn't have to be that expensive either. I had enough scrap steel that I only had to by $200.00 worth and I have a lathe and milling machine so I could make the bushings and drill the larger holes although a drill press would work just as well. I found the cylinders on ebay for $60.00 each shipped and the valves and hoses were about $400.00 total. It's not cheap but compared to renting a few times or buying built it's not bad and it's been a lot of fun.
 
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