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Will chains help significantly?using 448 with goodyear tires.Thinking of chains,lower tire pressure maybe even different tires. Could hardly move. Wheel/s would just spin. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I even have a cab and i weigh 265lbs and have wheel weights also. If it doesn't get better gonna have to sell it! Btw i was using the 448 to snowblow.
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mickleft said:
Will chains help significantly?using 448 with goodyear tires.Thinking of chains,lower tire pressure maybe even different tires. Could hardly move. Wheel/s would just spin. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I even have a cab and i weigh 265lbs and have wheel weights also. If it doesn't get better gonna have to sell it! Btw i was using the 448 to snowblow.
You don't say what you are using for wheel weights but since it's 448 you have, then you probably have the black plastic weights. Those help but they don't really add as much weight as what is needed. If you install a set of 2 link chains on your tractor, the difference will shock you. Having the tires loaded with Rimguard will also improve traction. Install another 400 LBS on a custom bracket tight to the rear axle and your Case will be unstoppable.
i would try chains i use them all the time i have my blade or blower on my tractor and i use two 160 pounds wheel wheights also or all i do is spin my tires one tractor of mine has just weights and with the blade it wont go up a hill in my yard with the blade one it spins and with the chains it just goes i would try chains you can get chains from john deere size 8.3 garden tractor chains about 80 dollars i just bought a set and they fit skin tight weight try finding a old john deere combine they have 16 inch wheels on the back and they weight 160 each for the one piece out side weights and about 100 pounds for the two piece in side weights hope this helps
I use wheel weights and two link chains on turf tires. I deflate the tires, fit the chains tightly, inflate the tires. This keeps the chains tight and max traction is obtained. I use both a plow or snowblower. I also have added weight mounted on the rear which amounts to about 100 LBS.
Mad Mackie in CT
I put 2 link chains and 4 rear cast iron weights on my 195 and its a tank! Without chains in the other months it does whatever I ask of it. It pulls a 1000# roller! The problem is not the tractor but the setup. I have to chain up the semi to go similar places in the winter.
What type of tire exactly? If they're automotive Goodyears then I'd switch them. Even with lower pressure I'd think your contact patch will be quite small.
Chains are a must in the winter, especially with ice. Two link are the best.
I like Hydriv's formula for Winter Preparation on Case/Ingersoll GT's. It covers it all. :thumbup: I don't fill the tires, but I follow it close and have plenty of traction.
With chains less weight can also be used if you so choose.
I hope this all helps you out.
Here is the CCI Link page, Where to Buy Stuff. I think most people have been pleased with Tire Chains dot com products and prices. Scroll down to Tire Chains. No need to sell the tractor. :thumbup:
http://www.manuals.casecoltingersoll.co ... marked.pdf

:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich
Thanks for all the replies. I was kinda discouraged with my first results but i will add tire chains and weight.Any ideas/designs for a bracket to hang weight in back? Thanks again. Mickey
Before messing with weight brackets I suggest you get your tires filled with Rimguard--cheaper and more effective.
mickleft said:
Thanks for all the replies. I was kinda discouraged with my first results but i will add tire chains and weight.Any ideas/designs for a bracket to hang weight in back? Thanks again. Mickey
Tire chains can be sourced from Tirechains.com

Google Rimguard to find dealers close to you and then get several quotes.

If you look at the back of your tractor, you will find bolts that hold the towing plate onto the trans-axle plus just behind the seat panel are two bolts that are vertical and they go through the tractor frame and thread into the trans-axle. Start with a piece of angle iron that takes advantage of the vertical bolts and then design your bracket to suit whatever you choose for weights. The local scrap yard/metal recycler can often be a source for solid steel plates or bars that will give you the desired weight and keep it close in to the back of the tractor. The bolts that hold the tow plate on will secure the bottom of your bracket to keep it from moving around and stressing the top bolts.

Try to weight your tractor while thinking about how you will be using it the rest of the year. Rimguard is a great choice for filling the tires and if you mow hills on your property, having the wheels loaded can be a big advantage. However, if your property is on the wet side then perhaps the Rimguard is not a good idea if it will cause rutting in the lawn. Weights should be selected so that you don't bust your back installing and removing them. It is much better to have eight 50 LB weights than two 200 LB ones. Safety is paramount. Different times of the year call for different setups. Flexibility is key.
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If you want cheap weight go buy 20 gallons of windshield washer fluid and add that to your rear tires.

Combine that with a set of chains and you won't have any problems with your tractor getting traction to use your snowcaster.
I have the 160 johnny rottin wheel weights and chains on my 444 I plow a steep gravel drive and it has never failed to clear the snow and I have to plow from the bottom up I did plow last year with just my ags but going back to turfs and chains this year it did great but I prefere the chains
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