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Case 644 K321 Engine mount History Question?

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I would appreciate a bit of help knowing when Case began using what I will call a rubber mounted cradle to support the K321 in 644's. Our's is a 1972 644 with two-color paint scheme. I have not cross-referenced engine numbers as of yet, but believe the K321 to be original to the tractor. This engine is bolted to a panel welded between the frame rails and have only thick "rubber washers?" and bolts with locknuts holding it in place. There is no cradle as I see in pics of later 644's with single paint color - or for that matter, on Case 444's, 224's. Back in 2011 when I joined the forum, I was able to download the site manuals. They are somewhere .... my bad.
The reason for my question is that the K321 is in need of a rebuild or re-power. Life has taken a priority and the tractor has been on stands for almost 10 years. What began as a refurbishing to replace old leaking hydraulic lines, re-bushing too loose parts and rebuilding the starter generator system, when it came to the oil blowing engine, finances and life took over.
I toyed with the idea of an engine rebuild (pricey) verses a re-power using a sourced-good used engine. Two years ago I came across a K361Q in a complete '78 IH CC 1650 nearby and was affordable. (The tractor had been hand-fisted by the original owner, but is all there with many OEM extra parts.) I have read of the issues to anticipate of using an engine non-stock to the tractor. BTW, our 644 appears to be completely stock w/3 point minus the stock exhaust and judging by the wear on the clutch, the original included mower deck had been used extensively. Soooooooo ......
This is the basis of my question regarding what would be the original mounting system for a K321 in a '72 644. This engine vibrated because the rubber washers were squashed. We have a '73 IH CC 149 with the original K321 mounted the same way. And yes, the finger tips would tingle in short order there as well. Fabrication would not be an issue. I miss the 644. Life is still in the way, but having a dream these days would be good medicine.
Thank you in advance for any help. Be well, stay well one and all. M
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My 73 644 engine is bolted directly to the frame also.
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My 1974 644 lbh has the Kohler 321 rubber mounted to a cradle like my 1973 444.

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Harry
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The 644 parts manuals indicate the 644 engine isolator plates likely came in to being with the major break point of PIN 9698284, which appears to be late 1974, early 75 production timing.

Brian
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My 1974 644 is Pin# 9698369 I included a pic of the engine isolator plate on the Kohler 321.

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Harry

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Thank you Ben, Harry and Brian, for your inputs. The engine mount question has been one I wished to ask for some time.
Two and a half years ago, I began receiving weekly emails with a list of pertinent topics. I would like to thank those people responsible. Thank you for your efforts.
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