[InTroubleAlltheTime]

I for one would like to learn more about the Case and Ingersoll Log Splitters and Wood Chippers. :trink: With the price of fuel oil at $4.00 I think more members may want to get into wood heating. :usa: Questions I have:
Are they universal for all our GTs with rear hydraulic PTO/valve or do some splitters or chippers need the increased hydraulic flow of a late model Ingersoll?
Are there sleeve hitch models or are they all three point and tow?
Think I have seen splitters hooked up to 200 series.....
What is preferred types, tow or three point models?
What diameter branch can the chipper safely handle?
Anyone hauling raw timber out of the woods with their GTs?
Any input is appreciated! :thumbsup: Love to see pics/videos of GTs in action too!

:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[xfolkboat]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I have a J32 Case splitter. It's a 3 point model, but my tractor suffers from "attachment overload" and a 3 pt is a no-go for me-so I mounted it on a heavy sprayer chassis kit.

I run it with a 448, it goes as fast as I can!

This splitter weighs 250 or more lbs, to mount it on a tractor would require a lot of front-end weight.

I have a few pictures, but I'll have to blank out my face to keep my fan club at bay.

 

[unclecake]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I have had both, the 3-point and the tow behind. I originally had the 3-point, which was easy to store in my garage due to the small size. I had a front axle from a Craftsman tractor that I was going to use to pull it if needed as all of my Case/Ingersoll tractors did not have a 3-point hitch. I never got around to making it, but it was the plan.

Then found a tractor that had the tow behind as a package, so I bought everything and sold the tractor. The tow behind has the hydraulic control on the splitter which makes it a bit closer to where you are working. As well, I can tow it with any of my tractors. Overall, they both work very well when splitting both directions, but one direction has more force. I wouldn't know that by using it, but I read it in the manual.

In the video you posted he was splitting at a very low height. My experience is that you back will hurt after a short amount of time. I always made my splitter sit up as high as possible. It make it more difficult to lift larger logs, but I was always able to do it. I never had a log that the splitter would not split, but I only split around 3 or 4 face cords a year, but most of it is hard wood (mainly cherry).

Either 200 or 400 series would work due to the hydraulic pump really working the same in both series. The 3-point is very, very heavy for a 3-point. It will lift the front off of the ground on my 646 when going up an incline. So, I would say that I like the tow behind, but if you really want one you need to get what ever you can find. When I sold my 3-point splitter it sold very quickly and I think that I easily got $850 or $900 for it and the guy drove a long way.

As far as the chippers go, I had one of those as well, but I don't remember much about it. I only put some smaller branches through it, but I didn't see see much use for it for myself. I just burn the wood or leave them in the woods. It was a neat unit, but again I didn't use it so I shipped it to a guy down south.

 

[Hydriv]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

There were several models of splitters.

One style bolted directly to the rear of the tractor, a second style has its own wheels and tows like a trailer and the third is three-point hitch mounted. There has never been a sleeve hitch mount splitter.

The most popular is the tow-type because you just pin it to the tow plate, connect the lines and go. You don't have to put a log under it to support the back of it while you are splitting like you must do with the J31 and J32 models.

Those are the two that bolt onto the tractor. J31 is a single acting splitter. It splits in one direction only whereas the J32 will split in both directions and that saves time. Front weight kits are essential with these two models, as well as the 3 point hitch splitter model.

The J36 is the tow-able model. Of course, there were updated versions of most of the models so you will find K, and L designations as well as Ingersoll HSWD and AHSHD, AHSWD models for the All Hydraulic tractors.

The only tractors the splitters should not be used on are the 1976 and 1977 models that have the steel hydraulic tank under the battery because the tank is undersized - capacity-wise.

Other than that, any 200,400, 600, 3000, 4000, 6000 and 7000 model with a rear PTO valve will power the splitter with ease. Most people run their tractor no faster than half-throttle.

The chipper/shredders were made by McKissick, one of the best known chipper makers out there. Everyone that owns one of these units raves about it. Yes, it has it's limitations but so what? It's designed to clean up the trash and turn it into a usable mulch. Anything too large in diameter should be cut up for firewood.

 

[mastifflawyer]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I have a J32. I did not want to attach it to a tractor because I use it infrequently. I move it around in the bucket of my 648. I then sit it on some 4X4s. Unlike Justin, I like to have it low to the ground. I don't think it really matters.

I have split some of the hardest oak with it without any problem. I like the fact that you can split in both directions. My plan is to build a shorter version of the tow behind model.

Don't tell my '77 446 that it is not a good match for the splitter, as that is the tractor I have used it with all of the time. :facepalm:

 

[Hydriv]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Don't tell my '77 446 that it is not a good match for the splitter, as that is the tractor I have used it with all of the time. :facepalm:

jack,
I wouldn't dream of telling you such a thing. However, in the splitter manual, Case made a suggestion that certain models that fell within the parameters of two PIN's, were not the most ideal power source for splitters. The only thing different in the hydraulic systems of those tractors is the metal hydraulic tank under the battery. Perhaps your 77 has the poly tank with a larger capacity.

A question was asked.. I gave the answer that was known to me. Puhleeeeeze..... don't shoot the messenger. :sidelaugh: :canada:

 

[mastifflawyer]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

No-I really meant don't tell the tractor. It doesn't know and I would like to keep it that way. Of course I had never heard that either. Mine has the metal tank under the battery. That is my real work tractor. I have a three point on that one as well, and it always performs flawlessly. But then again, I really take care of it. There is very little I haven't done in maintenance.

 

[unclecake]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Unlike Justin, I like to have it low to the ground. I don't think it really matters.

Jack, if you were only my age, your back would hurt too!!

 

[tanandorange]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Anyone hauling raw timber out of the woods with their GTs?
Any input is appreciated! :thumbsup: Love to see pics/videos of GTs in action too!

:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

Rich, I haven't, but the PO of the 448 I had said that's what he used it for. Skidded one tree at a time from the woods to his house, then cut them up for firewood. I would imagine they had to be fairly small trees since it had turfs and no wheel weights.
Didn't Hopsfarmer have a grapple for his 7020? I'd like to see that in action.

 

[JSB Case]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Used Case/Ingersoll woodsplitters and chippers are very rarely found for sale in the New England area. I have only found one splitter for sale on Craigslist as a package deal with a tractor and other attachments. I couldn't get a showing of the thing because of the response the seller received.

After that quick reality check, I decided to build/covert my own splitter. A woodsplitter with a bad motor was donated to my cause. Very easy project. Drain the oil, remove the engine and hydraulic tank, install longer hoses and quick couplers, connect to PTO, fill with correct oil, SPLIT WOOD. The splitter and rear PTO combo works great on wood up to 30" long and I use a removable 4-way wedge to split even faster.

 

[mastifflawyer]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Unlike Justin, I like to have it low to the ground. I don't think it really matters.

Jack, if you were only my age, your back would hurt too!!

Justin, I am twice your age...almost... Your back is bad from trying to carry all four of your children at the same time. :smile:

 

[unclecake]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Unlike Justin, I like to have it low to the ground. I don't think it really matters.

Jack, if you were only my age, your back would hurt too!!

Justin, I am twice your age...almost... Your back is bad from trying to carry all four of your children at the same time. :smile:

Yeah, you are probably right! The good thing is in a few years I will be supervising while the kids do it!

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Anyone hauling raw timber out of the woods with their GTs?
Any input is appreciated! :thumbsup: Love to see pics/videos of GTs in action too!
:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

Rich, I haven't, but the PO of the 448 I had said that's what he used it for. Skidded one tree at a time from the woods to his house, then cut them up for firewood. I would imagine they had to be fairly small trees since it had turfs and no wheel weights.
Didn't Hopsfarmer have a grapple for his 7020? I'd like to see that in action.

Thank you all for the valuable information! :usa:Much appreciated! :trink: I have seen the splitters for sale time to time. Once in a while I have seen the chippers for sale. I think Hops was using my 446 GT for log splitting logs before I bought it. I don't know if he has a grapple. I know some of the big pay loaders have scissors built into the bucket. I don't know if any of the Ingersolls or Case yard tractors ever had anything like that. It is extremely useful for grabbing stuff like logs. What do you think about the size of that old growth timber being harvested in the pics? Divers are still harvesting the logs that sank in rivers for heart pine wood flooring. They do a lot of timbering down by my place in Virginia. I have to check in to this further. They are going for the lob lolly pine. It looks like a lot of the cut hardwood is left behind. Prime firewood. :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[Bart]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I have a log hook (like big old ice tongs) that I attach to the bucket on my loader and use it to skid trees around but lately I found it handy to just cut them in 6 ft lengths and scoop them up with my loader forks. I'll be doing a lot of splitting in the next month and intend to use my backhoe with the log hook to lift the big ones up on the splitter. I also intend to break in my new son-in-law to the art of log splitting--we'll see how that goes. :sidelaugh:

 

[Hydriv]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I don't know if Hops has a grapple. I know some of the big pay loaders have scissors built into the bucket. I don't know if any of the Ingersolls or Case yard tractors ever had anything like that. It is extremely useful for grabbing stuff like logs. What do you think about the size of that old growth timber being harvested in the pics? Divers are still harvesting the logs that sank in rivers for heart pine wood flooring. They do a lot of timbering down by my place in Virginia. I have to check in to this further. They are going for the lob lolly pine. It looks like a lot of the cut hardwood is left behind. Prime firewood. :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

There was a log-skidder type grapple on the rear of Hops 7000 series tractor when he bought it. I don't know if that was a commercially made or home-made unit. Case/Ingersoll has never made a grapple bucket for their loaders but it wouldn't be hard to fabricate one.

At a lumber yard not too far from me, they had an old growth log on display outside. It was about 20 feet long and laying on its side on a custom stand. The caliper of that log was over six feet. They had driven markers into the growth rings that were numbered. Next to the log was a chart that coincided with the marker numbers and explained what historical event had taken place at that stage of the tree's growth. I forget how many years that tree had been alive but it was in the hundreds. The rings were very tight together which means that tree was in a deep forest with plenty of competition.

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

I have a log hook (like big old ice tongs) that I attach to the bucket on my loader and use it to skid trees around but lately I found it handy to just cut them in 6 ft lengths and scoop them up with my loader forks. I'll be doing a lot of splitting in the next month and intend to use my backhoe with the log hook to lift the big ones up on the splitter. I also intend to break in my new son-in-law to the art of log splitting--we'll see how that goes. :sidelaugh:

Bart Is all the firewood you use from your property? :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[Hops_Farmer]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Rich,

Your 446 ran that splitter like a champ. Now moving it around the yard, that was an adventure.

I have the 3pth splitter, and I love it. I have had it hooked up to a 446 and my 7020L It worked great on both. The weight required to off set it on the 446 was a lot. The prior owner had bolted 2 wheel weights to the front of the tractor, and it almost balanced it out. Any uphill travel and you would pop a wheelie! I like the fact that the splitter cuts both ways, it speeds things up a lot. I watched my father-in-law have to recycle his splitter after each cut.

The grapple on my tractor is homemade by someone else. No idea who, but they used a plasma cutter to throw in an "H" on it. I had a Bobcat dealer look at it once for a possible trade in. He was the one who thought it was homemade, and I'd say he know's his equipment. I have pulled a lot of brush with it. I pruned an apple tree that had gone ferrel and hacked out 2/3 of the branches. Instead of making 100s of trips to the brush pile I bundled up in piles larger than my tractor, and dragged them off in under an hour. I also dragged two birch trees with it with no problems other than tearing the hell out of my lawn.

I'll see if I can find some pictures of my splitter too.

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Rich,
Your 446 ran that splitter like a champ. Now moving it around the yard, that was an adventure.
I have the 3pth splitter, and I love it. I have had it hooked up to a 446 and my 7020L It worked great on both. The weight required to off set it on the 446 was a lot. The prior owner had bolted 2 wheel weights to the front of the tractor, and it almost balanced it out. Any uphill travel and you would pop a wheelie! I like the fact that the splitter cuts both ways, it speeds things up a lot. I watched my father-in-law have to recycle his splitter after each cut.
The grapple on my tractor is homemade by someone else. No idea who, but they used a plasma cutter to throw in an "H" on it. I had a Bobcat dealer look at it once for a possible trade in. He was the one who thought it was homemade, and I'd say he know's his equipment. I have pulled a lot of brush with it. I pruned an apple tree that had gone ferrel and hacked out 2/3 of the branches. Instead of making 100s of trips to the brush pile I bundled up in piles larger than my tractor, and dragged them off in under an hour. I also dragged two birch trees with it with no problems other than tearing the hell out of my lawn.
I'll see if I can find some pictures of my splitter too.

Hops: Wow that grapple is heavy duty! The two way looks really efficient on the splitters. Good to hear that the 446 did well with the splitter. Thank you, appreciate the info. :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[Bart]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

At a lumber yard not too far from me, they had an old growth log on display outside. It was about 20 feet long and laying on its side on a custom stand. The caliper of that log was over six feet. They had driven markers into the growth rings that were numbered. Next to the log was a chart that coincided with the marker numbers and explained what historical event had taken place at that stage of the tree's growth. I forget how many years that tree had been alive but it was in the hundreds. The rings were very tight together which means that tree was in a deep forest with plenty of competition.

Those time charts are fascinating to me. I saw a similar one on Vancouver Island that was a good 12+ feet in diameter and the marker for the Declaration of Independence was about 2" from the outside. When Christ was born the tree was about 6 ft in diameter and, as I recall, it was estimated that it started growing around 2,000 BC.

 

[Bart]

Re: Case/ Ingersoll Log Splitters, Wood Chippers, Timber Har

Bart Is all the firewood you use from your property? :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

Rich, most of the wood is from trees I've had to take down on my property but I live in an area where most of my neighbors have at least a couple of acres of woods--mostly oak trees--and there are plenty of trees laying on the ground after succumbing to disease or old age. My friends thank me for any wood I remove from their property since the alternative is to pay a tree service big $$ to do it. The advent of the gas fireplace has eliminated many people's desire for firewood but they always seem to love visiting my place where I usually have a fire going.

There are people in the area who heat their homes 100% with wood and like to pickup free firewood but many of them are lazy and irresponsible so the people with the wood won't allow them access to the wood. My point is that if you want wood there are plenty of people who are happy to have it removed IF you do a thorough job and don't damage things in the process but if you're just looking to cherry pick the easy stuff there is no benefit for the landowner.