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If that was in Michigan, it would be sold and either Jack or I would be the new owner. You don't see the 118's very often and that's a steal. The missing Briggs engine parts should be easily replaced as those were a very common engine. This is a true hydrostatic drive tractor from the early 70's. If you collect, you should want one of these... especially a Sunset model.
 

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I'll be the first to say that if you are mowing an actual lawn, nothing beats the cut quality and simple durability of one of those little guys...especially for the price. Even if you had to replace the engine, remember, that Briggs was used in lots of less durable machines that fell apart after a couple hundred hours use. So I would expect to find a good, low-hour engine for less than a C-note. The only thing that concerns me is...what is going on on with that primered spot on the frame below the brake rod? Looks like some kind of booger weld.
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Other then being old, cranky and set in my ways I can`t explain my general dislike for tractors with vertical crankshafts. Certainly works in my zero & brush cutter, makes a lot sense from a packaging and power transmission standpoint, but.. I just don`t get the same vibe.

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Other then being old, cranky and set in my ways I can`t explain my general dislike for tractors with vertical crankshafts. Certainly works in my zero & brush cutter, makes a lot sense from a packaging and power transmission standpoint, but.. I just don`t get the same vibe.

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Is it just me? :???: :???:
Well, yeah, I prefer a horizontal engine on a real tractor, but this is primarily a lawn mower and a good one at that. When you look at other ones of its type, it clearly comes out at the top of the heap.
PS-"Neo-Luddite" sounds so much better than "technophobe", as I sometimes describe myself. That is unless you realize that your buddy Ted K. describes himself as one. :sidelaugh:
 

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^ LOL, but neither of the famous Ted K`s ever qualified as " my buddy" !

And yes, it IS an ideal set-up for a lawnmower, no arguement there. But I bridle at the idea of a new big dollar Deere ( X5 permutations) using this arrangement. Again just a pre-conceived ( and probably ill founded) notion due to age etc.

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yes, the green & yellow tractors are fine machines, not trying to create a range war. :wave:
 

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I prefer the horizontal position to the vertical one too.

There are lots of well-made commercial machines that use engines with a vertical orientation because it just simplifies the delivery of engine power to the various bits and pieces that need to be spun.

As for the 118, my interest is that of a collector, not a user so I don't care that it uses a vertical shaft Briggs I/C engine.
 

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Well the affliction has been ratcheted up a notch.
Now I've got an LT....

My buddy picked it up and notified me when my "relic" was safe at his barn.
Dont know when Ill get to it, but he's got the space, so it might be a while

Check the "album" button :thumbup:
 

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old abe said:
Well the affliction has been ratcheted up a notch.
Now I've got an LT....

My buddy picked it up and notified me when my "relic" was safe at his barn.
Dont know when Ill get to it, but he's got the space, so it might be a while

Check the "album" button :thumbup:
Old Abe

I'm glad you got it, I like when a member brings home a unit under discussion.

It is a neet machine.

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Thanks guys,
Funny I was just saying a few months ago on MTF that the sunset/red ones never come up around here, and I'd like to get one for my boys to mow with.
Fast forward, and I got one. And my friend cannot understand why I would want such a "fine specimen from the Industrial Revolution."

Seller told me he thought he had the manuals. No word on if they actually made it though. If so, I'll get the forum the PDF's since I didn't see one for the 118. Primer is a weld too, so not sure what condition it is for sure.

118 was only a 4 year deal? Wonder how many are actually still around. These were the top of the line LT's right?
 

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The chart says 4 years and I have nothing to dispute that. It's a Case made LT... As far as I'm concerned, that makes it top of the line in the LT world. I think that once you get it and start working on it, you will agree. Glad that you got it. We need to save as many as we can.
 

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Congrats on your new purchase Old Abe. In 2002, when I first got a computer, it seemed I was the only one on any of these forums who had a 1XX LT in their stable. I'm glad to see a growing interest in these once-overlooked machines, as they were one of the last that size to actually be built to last. You should see Dave Beiter's daughter's 108, if that doesn't inspire you nothing will. It's almost too pretty to use, and is featured on the 108 T-shirt by Vintage Iron. If i ever stumble onto a 107 or 117 cheap enough I might have to get my wife a "backup" for her 108. Not that it's ever needed a backup, but seems like a strong selling point when negotiating with the "Purchasing Manager" :lol:
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Hydriv,

I'm still learning the nomenclature of the LT's. I just assumed the 118 was the highest #, so figured it was top of the Case/Ingy LT line. But a 116 has a 16hp? So I guess the 118 was top of the Case LT line for the "proper" color tractors :razz:
 

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Up until 1969, Colt and Case focused on the garden tractor segment of the market. Case decided to enter the lawn tractor market in 1969 with two models. The 107 was a 7hp LT with a gear drive transmission but the 117 was identical except it used a true hydrostatic trans-axle. These are the only 2 LT's with Tec engines and they remained in production until 1973 when they received a 8 HP B&S engine and were renamed the 108 and 118 to reflect the extra HP.

The 108 model stuck around until 1987 but the 118 bit the dust permanently after the end of the 1976 model year. In 1982, the 110 model became available with a 10 HP Briggs along with a 111, 112, 114 and finally a 116 that reflected 11, 12, 14 and 16 HP engines, all from Briggs.

If HP denotes "Top Model", then the 116 would claim the title. Collectors tend to prize two things. The oldest and the scarcest. Currently, the Sunset 107, 117, 108 and 118 would qualify on both counts but in truth, all those other models will become quite desirable in the years to come as more people get into the hobby and fewer and fewer of the Power Red models manage to escape the scrap yard.
 

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tanandorange said:
Congrats on your new purchase Old Abe. In 2002, when I first got a computer, it seemed I was the only one on any of these forums who had a 1XX LT in their stable. I'm glad to see a growing interest in these once-overlooked machines, as they were one of the last that size to actually be built to last. You should see Dave Beiter's daughter's 108, if that doesn't inspire you nothing will. It's almost too pretty to use, and is featured on the 108 T-shirt by Vintage Iron. If i ever stumble onto a 107 or 117 cheap enough I might have to get my wife a "backup" for her 108. Not that it's ever needed a backup, but seems like a strong selling point when negotiating with the "Purchasing Manager" :lol:
John
I almost bought a 107 at an auction... I ran it up to $135.00 and backed off....... stupid stupid stupid, it sold for $140.00 THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENTS!!!!
 
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