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Lithium. AGM & Lead Acid battery

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I am exploring an alternative battery type for my 4018. It seems like I have to replace the battery every year or two. Even thought it is kept in a heated shop Has anyone had experience with AGM or Lithium battery for your tractor.
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I am exploring an alternative battery type for my 4018. It seems like I have to replace the battery every year or two. Even thought it is kept in a heated shop Has anyone had experience with AGM or Lithium battery for your tractor.
Not sure what battery you are using but it has to be very cheap! I buy Diehard Gold batteries for both my Case GT's and they least at least 6+ years. If yours don't you either are buying very cheap batteries or your charging system is shot and needs work
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Fix the tractor's charging system, and you won't need the trickle charger.
I agree with dundee222. The original post said that poster was having to replace the battery every year or so.. yest this post morphed into battery charging? If the battery was totally shot and needed replacement that's one thing but if the battery was just discharge that is something else. It just seems to me that people jump to conclusions. Yes I realize that this could be a charging issue, that the start to stop time might be too short to recharge the battery and therefore gradually lose charge guys. What we did not ask before making our determinations what what battery amp hour, how long was the GT run, how often and how long did it take to start, etc.. And yet we all jumped to our own conclusions.. We need to get better...
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The charging system may not charge a dead battery, but it should keep the battery topped off even during short run times.
Sorry not true at all! not even true for a car or anything else!.
Whilst it is true that when an engine charging system is running the aim is to charge the battery to replace the charge used when starting and running the charge happens at a prescribed rate and will take time to replace the charge used to start, etc. If the engine takes a few cycles to start the longer those cycles are will result in a longer charge time to replace back to where it was before the start occurred. Even if the charge system is fully functional, and the battery fully charged at the start, that will take time, and the longer the discharge to start the more time it will need and the more starts/stops also need to be factored in and any other things that will draw current too such as lights, PTO, etc.
OH, and another thing.. My GT's sit outside - summer and winter. During the summer they see very little use as they both are used for winter - one with a snow blower and the other a plow. I have about 1/2 acre of grass to cut in the summer and a couple of 80ft drives in the winter. Never had an issue starting, never had to trickle charge, etc. When I start either of my GT's they start in 4 or 5 revolutions of the engine (both B&S Vanguard) and (I use non ethanol gas) too. I do basic maintenance on both the engine and hydraulics (synthetic oil change on about a three year cycle, etc). I think in perhaps the last 6 plus year I changed my batteries but frankly can't remember the last time I charged them. My biggest issue is frozen ignition keys and not starting, etc
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I also get about 2 years out of a GT battery. I've tried most of the brands. Temperature has a lot to do with battery life. I worked with the large lead acid batteries banks we used at Power Plants. The vendors data showed life declining over 77F. I had a Texas friend who moved to Colorado for about 10 years he was amazed at the increased length his batteries lasted. so I'm convinced the Texas summer heat is part of what kills my batteries.
So I must admit I am confused guys. My youngest battery is now 4 years old! my oldest is approaching 7 years and still going strong. I only use Diehart Gold, all are sealed, never have been charged either. Yes I pay more for my batteries than most perhaps initially but a lot less than anyone it seems that buys the two year version? I have a couple of tractor that sit the whole winter outside under canvas (not Case/Ingersoll and start very easy in the spring. I also have 3 case/ingersoll GT's that are also under canvas and start year round too. Non of my batteries have EVER leaked, indeed they are all sealed. My batteries are subjected to temps as low as -5 F and can and have reached temps as high as 105 too. Never been an issue! If you want a $35 battery expect to change it regularly but want a long lasting version prepared to pay over $100 too.
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