[GoldenCove]

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/grd/2261504444.html

did the Honda come stock in this or is it a replacement? :headscratcher:

 

[Bart]

If it is a Honda it's not original. Looks like a nice tractor that belongs in your garage. Mackie would be very jealous if that were to happen. :sidelaugh:

 

[GoldenCove]

That would be nice if I pulled up to the casenutz gathering with it on my trailer! :sidelaugh:

 

[Hydriv]

Honda engines have never been used in any of these machines. That is a re-power. Nice looking machine. Honda makes excellent engines and right now, no one is likely to buy this unit to stick in a collection. This has lots of job-life left in it so the power plant really doesn't matter all that much as long as the work was done right.

As for price............it's certainly in the ball-park. If you want one of these, then as always, it comes down to condition and location.

 

[GoldenCove]

Thanks Tom and Bart,

I did not think Case/Ingersoll used Honda engines but was not sure. It is a very nice tractor none the less :thumbsup:

 

[ING6018]

Honda engines have never been used in any of these machines. That is a re-power.

Things that make you go Hmmmmm.
I have heard references to 6020 loaders with Honda engines, but never ran across one.
I have a wholesale dealer price list from 2005 that shows part numbers for 6020 and 7020 with Kohlers.

In the Bucket and attachments section, look at the 7th entry (for the belly mower
C010HM48L)

The (3,4) refers to a footnote and the footnote says:

(4) For Field Installation on 6020 Honda Unit, Order C47304 Wiring Harness

So, is the footnote a typo?

 

[Hydriv]

I guess we need to hear from Brian on this issue. I have never seen a reference to a Honda engine in any literature but then again, I have not seen every piece of paper produced.

I find it bizarre if Ingersoll went with a Honda engine because they have had such a long-term relationship with Kohler, Onan and Briggs. On top of that, they constantly waved the American flag when advertising the tractors. There are some who do not view a Honda as an American product so it would surprise me if they messed with their "Made in America" image.

 

[oldcasecoltguy]

I guess we need to hear from Brian on this issue. I have never seen a reference to a Honda engine in any literature but then again, I have not seen every piece of paper produced.

I find it bizarre if Ingersoll went with a Honda engine because they have had such a long-term relationship with Kohler, Onan and Briggs. On top of that, they constantly waved the American flag when advertising the tractors. There are some who do not view a Honda as an American product so it would surprise me if they messed with their "Made in America" image.

I checked on this a while ago and I got tripped up on this as well, it looks like the earlier Ingersoll 6020LBH version had a Honda GX620QAF, 20hp engine, Literature Form No. 3096-96, now it looks like the the later Ingersoll 6020L & 6020LBH, it looks like those had the Kohler CH20, 20hp engines, to me it looks like they may have used both, depending if it was an earlier model or a later model, Jim Quick has a 6020L and that has a Kohler CH20, I believe you are going to find both Honda & Kohler powered units out there, non the less, you just don't see many 6020L or 6020LBH's to begin with, they must not have built very many.

 

[Bart]

That Honda is one of the best kept secrets I've heard of so far. That makes that tractor a collector's item and I may have to make the trek to the CT gathering just to see Tom drive up with it--and then watch Mackie wrestle him for it. :sidelaugh:

 

[oldcasecoltguy]

That Honda is one of the best kept secrets I've heard of so far. That makes that tractor a collector's item and I may have to make the trek to the CT gathering just to see Tom drive up with it--and then watch Mackie wrestle him for it. :sidelaugh:

The literature the Honda engine appears in was dated the 30th week of 1996, it has the Ingersoll 6018LBH and the 6020LBH, it may have been about the time the end of the Onan engine's was near, it looks like Ingersoll may have been looking for a replacement for the Onan engine and used the Honda 20 hp engine, but this would have been before they started producing the Ingersoll 7020L & 7020LBH with the Kohler engine, so the timing of it would make sense.

 

[Bob MacGregor]

Mornin Bart and group,
I would love to have someone pull into the Casenutz Gathering with it on a trailer!!!! I don't have a serious need for a LBH, but it would be a nice piece in Mad Mackies Medicare Machine Museum to keep my 4018 company. My Scag ZTR would be there to keep the Ingersolls from misbehaving!!! HAR!HAR!!!!! My Thomas the Tank Engine and his family keep a watchful eye on all of them and report to me regularly!!!!
Neighbor just called to tell me that the brake lights on my van are on, just checked and the battery is dead!!! Been having a problem with either the brake light switch or the brake controller or both. Gotta charge the battery and get a new brake light switch and new tail light lamps and then go from there. If it isn't my kilt making me itch it is always something else!!! HAR!HAR!
Mad Mackie in CT :sidelaugh: :goodpost: :+1: :lol:

 

[Bart]

I don't have a serious need for a LBH, but it would be a nice piece in Mad Mackies Medicare Machine Museum to keep my 4018 company.

If Tom is a stand up guy he will probably bring it to the Casenutz gathering and donate it to the museum in recognition of all your assistance over the years. :sidelaugh:

 

[bhildret]

Documents I have clearly include the Honda ... Kohlers later.

Use before PIN :
6020L - PIN 17193591
6020BH - PIN 17193505
HONDA MODEL GX620QAF SPEC. NO. 553300

Likewise, I have never seen a 6020 ... but they must be out there in some numbers.

Brian

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

TomG Turned out to be quite an interesting post! :goodpost: I just clicked on the listing for another look and its gone, gone, gone! :think: :wave: Is that tractor headed to Golden Cove!!!!! :trink: :trink: :trink:
:222: :446: Best Regards Rich

 

[Bob MacGregor]

Hey Rich,
I saw it on a trailer rolling up onto the Long Island Ferry, so you must be the one!!!!! :sidelaugh:
If you remember Jim Quick from the Casenutz Gathering, he has a 6020 and a 7020. He may bring one or more to this years gathering. If I recall, his 6020 is Kohler powered but I may be very wrong.
Mad Mackie in Taxonnecticut :sidelaugh: :mowlawn:

 

[GoldenCove]

Well you guys sure know how to keep me on my toes....but.....that tractor is not on the way to Golden Cove :facepalm: The wife has been keeping me super busy with the renovation but the floors went in last weekend and the tile should get done this weekend :wife:

Then I can get back to the tractor talk and fun! :clap:

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Hey Rich,
I saw it on a trailer rolling up onto the Long Island Ferry, so you must be the one!!!!! :sidelaugh:
If you remember Jim Quick from the Casenutz Gathering, he has a 6020 and a 7020. He may bring one or more to this years gathering. If I recall, his 6020 is Kohler powered but I may be very wrong.
Mad Mackie in Taxonnecticut :sidelaugh: :mowlawn:

Hi Bob I wish it were me! :usa: Yes I think I met Jim. That would be great if he brought one of the big boys! :trink: Looking forward!
:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Well you guys sure know how to keep me on my toes....but.....that tractor is not on the way to Golden Cove :facepalm: The wife has been keeping me super busy with the renovation but the floors went in last weekend and the tile should get done this weekend :wife:
Then I can get back to the tractor talk and fun! :clap:

Tom: You've been gone a while! I think for all that work you're doing the wife should authorize a purchase order for a new GT!
Or at least used one! :usa: :usa: :usa: :222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[Bob MacGregor]

Hi Rich,
That order for Tom Golden was filled last fall, the 1985 448 that I had at last years gathering became his last Nov.
Hopefully Tom will bring it to this years gathering so I can demo some maintenance with it.
But a purchase order should always remain open for all of us to be able to grab the deal that floats our boat so to speak!!!!!
I may be in the market for another 4000 series tractor this year as my 4018 has got very lonely and misses :sad: his older brother the 1985 448 SE that Tom now has.
Mad Mackie in Taxonnecticut :mrgreen: :lol: :wave:

 

[Bart]

I may be in the market for another 4000 series tractor this year as my 4018 has got very lonely and misses :sad: his older brother the 1985 448 SE that Tom now has.
Mad Mackie in Taxonnecticut :mrgreen: :lol: :wave:

Dan Haas has a nice 4020PS sitting in Rockford for you to bring home after the Cherry Valley show.