[mastifflawyer]

http://madison.craigslist.org/grd/2295325772.html

 

[Hydriv]

cl_leg.
Here's another example.


Would a newbie know from looking at the listing that this is a 1969 model?

Would he know that the frame has the kit to allow Snap-Fast attachments?

Would he be able to value the blade at $250.00 and the chains at $50.00?

How about the $400.00 3 pt hitch and the $125.00 F-27 adapter?

Is there any information that would tell him that this tractor has the optional E-38 Hy Lift kit for the mower deck and front blade?

Would he conclude that the Seller is asking an abundant amount of money for this tractor?


You tell me.

 

[BushBoneYard]

Sweet defines that tractor to me.....

 

[cl_leg]

how can you tell it is a '69 and not a painted '70? I've seen blades go from $150 to $450 so what makes this one worth $250. What if he doesn't want the 3 point and decides to sell it? Maybe he would ask $100 and then someone would get a good deal, but not if your around that is for sure. Are you willing to part with your chains for $50? Where do you get these prices?
I think that is a rare machine and worth a fair penny with those options, if it runs good, but it is missing the original deck.

 

[InTroubleAlltheTime]

Sweet defines that tractor to me.....
BBY There's something about those PKs that are neat. I always liked them.
Looks like this fella was a snow pusher.
:222: :446: Best Regards, Rich

 

[Hydriv]

how can you tell it is a '69 and not a painted '70?
It's called an "educated guess" and for the purposes of a potential buyer, it's good enough. I can't say that a 70 is worth more or less than a 69, so what possible difference could it make for me to be wrong by one year?

I've seen blades go from $150 to $450 so what makes this one worth $250.

When I give an evaluation, I look at the general condition that is visible in the photos and then provide a ball park figure. If you take the Low and High figures you gave, the average is $300.00. I guess that means that I undervalued the blade by a whole $50.00. Now maybe I overvalued it by $100. 00 or maybe I undervalued it by $150.00. Hard to say until you see the blade in person. But at least.....the member is left with some sort of idea as to what a blade by itself would sell for.

What if he doesn't want the 3 point and decides to sell it? Maybe he would ask $100 and then someone would get a good deal,

That would be his choice, would it not? He could come here and ask what the hitch is worth, especially since he got some idea about values here. Besides, how am I supposed to be responsible for what a Buyer does with his tractor once he gets it home?]

but not if your around that is for sure.

It would appear that we have just arrived at the real reason for your objections. YOU must be someone who buys and sells these tractors and my evaluations just PISS you off because you believe that they interfere with your little enterprise.

Are you willing to part with your chains for $50?

I've sold sets of 4 link chains for $50.00 so the answer is YES.

Where do you get these prices?

I get them from watching e-Bay auctions for the past six years. Where do you get your prices?

I think that is a rare machine and worth a fair penny with those options, if it runs good, but it is missing the original deck.

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. What you don't seem to understand is that YOU are entitled to post your own evaluation of that tractor RIGHT HERE and in the same thread as my evaluation. The rest of the members are free to look at both and make up their own minds. Just because I say a certain tractor is worth X amount of money does not make it so. There are plenty of factors that come into play, including how badly one particular buyer wants that tractor.

 

[tanandorange]

how can you tell it is a '69 and not a painted '70?

Chris, if someone here can enlarge the 3/4 view pic from the ad I can tell you for sure.
John

 

[mikebramel]

 

[tanandorange]

Thanks, Mike. That was quick! I'm looking at the seat hinge area, and while fuzzy, it appears to have the smaller hinge tabs which would make it a 1969.
John

 

[mjodrey]

That's a nice looking one.



Maynard :canada:

 

[Rockdog]

Yep. Sellers dont like to see people throwing around $$ figures for stuff cause they want to get top dollar for their stuff.

I for one purchased my 444 off e-bay recently. Knew it was a bit higher than I really wanted to pay for it based on what I knew about it. But supply around here is pretty slim and gas isnt free. And I just really wanted one of these and was tired of looking. So all in all based on the 'appraisals' on this site I believe I did OK. Besides, these are garden tractors and other than the big $ items parts are pretty reasonable from a 'hobby' standpoint.

These arent $100K cars we're talking about here so who really cares all that much anyway. Most of the tractor ads that come this way are in the hundreds of dollars. The reason tractor prices are down and parts are high is the same for EVERYTHING else right now (cars, etc.). Doesnt bother me much to pay 20$ for a part that a day later you could have had for $10 but I dont want to pay $1200 for somethinig I might find a month later and 100 miles closer for $700.