I'm pretty sure Tom (Hydriv) has some parts manuals for the Massey badged tractors but I don't think they've been uploaded yet.
MF 216gtx made by Ingersoll
I just bought a replacement for my first garden tractor - an early 80s, shaft driven workhorse. I began searching for JD 300 and 400 series tractors think they would be close in quality but couldn't find anything at a reasonable price. To make a long story short, I stubled upon this MF 216gtx that was made by Ingersoll. I've called dealers and searched the internet but haven't been able to find out a whole lot. I think it is the same as the Ingy 3016 but with a Kohler engine and some minor body styling differneces. Production of the MF version may have been limited to a couple of years which may explain the limited info available.
I'm hoping some of you might be able to help me out with some information about the machine, locating an operator and maintenence manuals, compatible attachment lists, etc.
Thanks
I'm hoping some of you might be able to help me out with some information about the machine, locating an operator and maintenence manuals, compatible attachment lists, etc.
Thanks
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Actually, I was supposed to get those manuals from Frank, thanks to his lovely partner but they have been stalled in the works. I have a feeling that I am to blame because I have been preoccupied with other matters lately. I'm pretty sure that we can help Willowmaster out if he can be a bit patient. I will e-mail Frank's GF and find out what the status is and report back here when I get an answer. :thumbsup:
Almost all the functional parts on the MFs exchange with the comparable Ingersoll. Only differences are a few sheet metal parts and the interfaces to the unique Kohler engines.
Brian
Brian
Thanks all. That's very encouraging news. The tractor looks to be heavy and strong enough to run a snowcaster and rototiller. Am I right about that?
It won't have a problem with either of those attachments. :trink:
They did have some heating issues due to the design of the hood. There were several dealer installed reworks including an opening on the side of the hood and additional louvres on top of the hood.
She's out of town right now but with some pleading, begging and ... I will get her on it as soon as she returns.Hydriv said:Actually, I was supposed to get those manuals from Frank, thanks to his lovely partner but they have been stalled in the works. I have a feeling that I am to blame because I have been preoccupied with other matters lately. I'm pretty sure that we can help Willowmaster out if he can be a bit patient. I will e-mail Frank's GF and find out what the status is and report back here when I get an answer. :thumbsup:
Mike Brammel recently posted a CL add with a 214gtx, deck, snowblower, and cart. From the info I've been able to get my hands on it appears that the snowblower should fit on the 216gtx I just picked up. Do any of you know if that's a safe bet. I've been cautioned that an Ingersoll snow caster may not fit because the hood on the MF is wider than the Ingy.
I don't know who told you that but it does not make any sense to me.
If you remove the hood from a Massey, it is 100% identical to an Ingersoll other than the different engine. Therefore, the Snap Fast attachment system is going to be identical between the two brands because Massey certainly wasn't going to pay to re-invent the line of attachments. Therefore, an Ingersoll SB Series snowcasters will clip on with no issues. The ONLY issue that MIGHT come into play here is the "Lift Arm". If the Massey hood is wider than the Ingersoll hood, then the engineers would have come up with a new design for the lift arm so that it had adequate clearance between it and the hood.
Other than that, any attachment that will fit on a 214, will fit a 216. They are the same tractor except for the engine and hood decals.
If you remove the hood from a Massey, it is 100% identical to an Ingersoll other than the different engine. Therefore, the Snap Fast attachment system is going to be identical between the two brands because Massey certainly wasn't going to pay to re-invent the line of attachments. Therefore, an Ingersoll SB Series snowcasters will clip on with no issues. The ONLY issue that MIGHT come into play here is the "Lift Arm". If the Massey hood is wider than the Ingersoll hood, then the engineers would have come up with a new design for the lift arm so that it had adequate clearance between it and the hood.
Other than that, any attachment that will fit on a 214, will fit a 216. They are the same tractor except for the engine and hood decals.
Thanks Hydriv - I thought you would know the real story on this. The caution came to me from an Ingersoll engineer via one of their customer support rep's. It didn't make much sense to me either, except that I could see potential for the discharge chute control arm to possibly be an issue.
I'm very pleased with my recent purchase of the MF216gtx and I think it is well worth investing in some attachments to go with it. I think it may be worth looking into that CL listing for the MF 214 with snowblower in NY and am looking for a 3pt. hitch and rototiller if anyone has a lead.
I'm very pleased with my recent purchase of the MF216gtx and I think it is well worth investing in some attachments to go with it. I think it may be worth looking into that CL listing for the MF 214 with snowblower in NY and am looking for a 3pt. hitch and rototiller if anyone has a lead.
You will need a rear PTO to power the tiller if your tractor does not have one.
Hopefully, Caseman2 (Frank) will chime in on the snowblower issue. I don't know if he's tried to mount a blower on his Massey or not but this would be a good excuse for him to try. As for the engineer's advice, I can't say for sure if he's right or wrong but if he was not with the company when they were still in Wisconsin, then he's probably just guessing. At this point, I don't know how much of the "old talent" that knew the answers to questions like this, actually made the move to Maine in 2005.
Hopefully, Caseman2 (Frank) will chime in on the snowblower issue. I don't know if he's tried to mount a blower on his Massey or not but this would be a good excuse for him to try. As for the engineer's advice, I can't say for sure if he's right or wrong but if he was not with the company when they were still in Wisconsin, then he's probably just guessing. At this point, I don't know how much of the "old talent" that knew the answers to questions like this, actually made the move to Maine in 2005.
I do have a rear PTO that current drives a hyravac. I'm on the look out for a three pt hitch to support a rototiller and other non-powered attachments. I had trouble posting some photos earlier in the day but plan to give it another shot in case they show some details that may help you all in answering some of the questions I have about the tractor.
I'm tending to accept your input over that I recieved from the Ingy engineer. I dont' see how the hood width of the MF would interfere with the Ingy snowcaster. I imagine that MF implements for the 200 series tractors are more scarce than the tractors themselves so if I'm going to add some attachments they will likely carry the Ingersoll name.
I'm tending to accept your input over that I recieved from the Ingy engineer. I dont' see how the hood width of the MF would interfere with the Ingy snowcaster. I imagine that MF implements for the 200 series tractors are more scarce than the tractors themselves so if I'm going to add some attachments they will likely carry the Ingersoll name.
The 200/400/600 Series tractors were all discontinued as of the 1988 production year. In 1989, Ingersoll began to offer the 3000, 4000 and 6000 Series tractors. The Massey's were made in 1991 and 1992, I believe. I tell you this so that you understand attachments such as mower decks and snowblowers that were made for the older 200 and 400 models WILL NOT WORK on your Massey or a 3000/4000 Series Ingersoll. This is entirely due to the fact that Ingersoll spun the engine 180 degrees in the frame and that move meant that the direction of rotation for implements was opposite to what it used to be.
If you are seeking a snowcaster, then you need one that has a model number that begins with SB followed by 44 or 48. Do not purchase a H, J, K, L, M, N, P, R or S-80 or 84 model snowcaster because those are strictly for the old 3 digit models .
The correct hitch for your tractor is the HH-34 because it was designed to work on both the High Wheel and Lo Pro models. The older H and J 26 hitch was exclusive to the High Wheel models.
If you are seeking a snowcaster, then you need one that has a model number that begins with SB followed by 44 or 48. Do not purchase a H, J, K, L, M, N, P, R or S-80 or 84 model snowcaster because those are strictly for the old 3 digit models .
The correct hitch for your tractor is the HH-34 because it was designed to work on both the High Wheel and Lo Pro models. The older H and J 26 hitch was exclusive to the High Wheel models.
It is true that the hoods are wider on the MF, however the frames are identical, as for the lift arm - its such a simple design any issues can be easily modified.Hydriv said:You will need a rear PTO to power the tiller if your tractor does not have one.
Hopefully, Caseman2 (Frank) will chime in on the snowblower issue. I don't know if he's tried to mount a blower on his Massey or not but this would be a good excuse for him to try. As for the engineer's advice, I can't say for sure if he's right or wrong but if he was not with the company when they were still in Wisconsin, then he's probably just guessing. At this point, I don't know how much of the "old talent" that knew the answers to questions like this, actually made the move to Maine in 2005.
As for checking mine out on a caster that wouldn't be easy as mine is now in my basement showroom - I have to many operational tractors for my yard and because of the rarity of the MF I decided to park it and not risk the sheetmetal... but I do miss the seat time on it.
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