I'm going today and we are getting that tractor up out of the brush. Going to lift the rear and drag it backwards with rear tires in the air. I have a chain I think I can hook Into the hitch and pull it straight up and drag. If there is a better way to lift up the rear end with chains, let me know. I really don't want to strap onto any of the three point hitch apparatus or arms. This thing is heavy and don't want to bend the tow hitch upwards in a dead lift. I'm sure it will take it....I'm being paranoid probably.
My 4020 revival(hopefully)
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We successfully retrieved the 4020 from the ground and pulled it up to the driveway with no problems. I simply wrapped a chain around the bucket of his tractor and around the hitch plate where it goes on the tractor frame area. We lifted the back up so the tires didn't touch and rolled it backwards on the fronts with no problems.
She sits up nice and looks good away from the grave it had been sitting. We noticed the right side cylinder head was loose, so we took it off and found out why the tractor was abandoned. It threw a valve, it was sticking out and that is why he was unable to get the head tightened down flat, because the valve is stuck open. Must of broke a spring or keeper. The top of the piston looks good and my hopes for the engine have grown.
I got a better look at the bottom of the tractor and many hoses under there and wow....it is built and heavy.
I do believe I'm going to put the work in to get it back to life, just too cool of a tractor to let die. He also found the original owners manual to it in his father in laws. Place. His father in law sadly passed away last year.
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Well here she is out of the grave.
She sits up nice and looks good away from the grave it had been sitting. We noticed the right side cylinder head was loose, so we took it off and found out why the tractor was abandoned. It threw a valve, it was sticking out and that is why he was unable to get the head tightened down flat, because the valve is stuck open. Must of broke a spring or keeper. The top of the piston looks good and my hopes for the engine have grown.
I got a better look at the bottom of the tractor and many hoses under there and wow....it is built and heavy.
I do believe I'm going to put the work in to get it back to life, just too cool of a tractor to let die. He also found the original owners manual to it in his father in laws. Place. His father in law sadly passed away last year.
Well here she is out of the grave.
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That's an HH34 3 point, they bring $500 used any day of the week. Did you get any attachments with this tractor?
Nice find,
Bob
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I know you were worried about the wheels being locked. When you had the rear in the air, did you grab the tires and try to give them a spin?
Looking at the picture the valve is on the oil filter side. So probably the exhaust valve seat popped out, this is common if the tractor was run without the rubber air seal between the filter and tin. With that seal missing enough cooling air is lost, to allow the block to overheat then the valve seat pops out.
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Gordy
Looking at the picture the valve is on the oil filter side. So probably the exhaust valve seat popped out, this is common if the tractor was run without the rubber air seal between the filter and tin. With that seal missing enough cooling air is lost, to allow the block to overheat then the valve seat pops out.
Cheers,
Gordy
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Great score and from a fellow Northeastener lol Welcome from Case Ingersoll Tractors Northeast! Where in NY are you?
I'm in the Jefferson county area, near Watertown.
Wow that seems like what happened. My plan is to try and get it going as is. I'm going to flood the engine with cheap oil and let it sit for a week or so and try and get the pistons rotating and fix the valve. I found the side cover for that side and will put some sort of seal in the oil filter area. Thanks for the explanation
No attachments. He had the mowing deck and a snow blade for it, but he had scrappers there to clean the property and they took them. That sucks, but can't sulk about it now.
I inspected this tractor more and I'm kinda wondering if I want to put money into this....I mean a lot.
It is pretty much complete with just a missing belly pan and one side cover where the pump is, but it is in rough shape. It has sat unused for ten years in the same spot, the rear end is seized, engine most likely seized, missing belly pan which I heard helps with cooling the hydropics. The steering wheel spins around easily without moving wheels at all. I don't know if this is because the power steering has leaked down with no pressure for so many years?
I also believe this tractor was used hard, as far as pulling logs, heavy mowing and pushing around rocks as he said. I'm in a sore spot if I want to do this tractor up, could be thousands and I found a 4016 on market place near me that runs with a mower deck for 1,200 dollars.
So...I might just try and get rear unsiezed and get the engine running, perhaps even get it to roll, but hesitant to spend a ton on this just yet. If I decide not to, I'll be parting it away, I'll give good deals sense I got this for free.
It is pretty much complete with just a missing belly pan and one side cover where the pump is, but it is in rough shape. It has sat unused for ten years in the same spot, the rear end is seized, engine most likely seized, missing belly pan which I heard helps with cooling the hydropics. The steering wheel spins around easily without moving wheels at all. I don't know if this is because the power steering has leaked down with no pressure for so many years?
I also believe this tractor was used hard, as far as pulling logs, heavy mowing and pushing around rocks as he said. I'm in a sore spot if I want to do this tractor up, could be thousands and I found a 4016 on market place near me that runs with a mower deck for 1,200 dollars.
So...I might just try and get rear unsiezed and get the engine running, perhaps even get it to roll, but hesitant to spend a ton on this just yet. If I decide not to, I'll be parting it away, I'll give good deals sense I got this for free.
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Good you are keeping a level head on this. While I have to see perfectly salvagable machines scrapped, sometimes, for whatever reason one gets too attached to a unit and blows way more than the thing would EVER be worth in the end. [See some classic car restorations!] Shame about the blade and deck, as they are saleable almost OVERNIGHT, for decent money too! Is the tractor inside and warm? The rear end might just have ice in it. Also check the brake band as it can stick to the drum if left sitting for a decade or so.
I was following the disscussion. Im from Western NY near Batavia. My mother is up your way just outside of Dexter.
Here is the correct oil filter air seal:
122-0502 - GASKET - OIL FILTER SEAL
122-0502 - GASKET - OIL FILTER SEAL, onan oil filter gasket, C20577
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Depending on how long ago the scrapers were there, they might still have the deck and blade. Many scrappers are able to see greater value in items rather than just scrap price. It might be worth trying ro get a hold of them.
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Gordy
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Keep us posted. If you do decide to get rid of it let me know.
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If you can use the tractor it is still worth fixing up. Yes you might find one for $1,200, but who's to say if the engine is in good shape. If fixing to sell, that may be a different story. Best of luck.
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Eric,
I am currently in the middle of my rebuild of that same tractor mine had a destroyed rod and was running on one cylinder just got the block back from the shop and waiting on new rods and pistons to arrive if you would post some pictures of the engine before you tear into it I would like to see the throttle cable routing if possible mine had a modified throttle on it thanks and good luck with the restoration
I am currently in the middle of my rebuild of that same tractor mine had a destroyed rod and was running on one cylinder just got the block back from the shop and waiting on new rods and pistons to arrive if you would post some pictures of the engine before you tear into it I would like to see the throttle cable routing if possible mine had a modified throttle on it thanks and good luck with the restoration
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