My old man has been looking for a bigger machine, we generally are Wheel Horse guys, so we set out to find a WH520 or JD 316, 425, 455, something along those lines, nothing clean had come up. Browsing CL, I saw a package offered w/ no pictures, we called the guy up he was 10 minutes from my house. What my father ended up with was a Ingersoll 4020 w/ pwr steering, 48" deck, 48" snow blower, hyvac cart, 3 point hitch (not installed brand new), chipper/shredder, chains, case plow and a case tiller. The old man who owned it traded his 446 on it in 1997, he just had new rear ags put on, a new pto clutch, and had every service record for its 500 hours, he had the oil and hydro fluid, all filters and plugs changed every april @ the cost of $350...WOW....he had all the books, but is ready to move to florida. We had to rent a uhual, because this stuff is bulky and the 5x8 would not handle it. It is wicked fast as well. I think my father paid a fair price, not a steal, but not a rip off, as he plans to keep this one, the only thing we have to do is figure why the lights won't work. The tiller and chipper are for sale, as he has no use for them.