Can anyone tell me if there is an electric pto that will work on a 444 instead of the adjustable clutch setups that are currently in use on these tractors?? i have tried several times to adjust this clutch with no luck. the more i read the instructions the worse it gets. is the disc attached to the one plate or is it supposed to be free between the plates like a cub clutch setup??
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I just rebuilt two of these clutches and when properly rebuilt and adjusted correctly, they work better then the electric setup. Maybe your clutch is so worn out that there is no more room for adjustment on it and now you are just chasing your tail trying to get it right. I would suggest rebuilding it with new bearings if the ones in there do not spin freely. New wave washers and a new friction disc should also be used. Here is a link to the clutch I rebuilt a few months ago. Let me know if you need help locating parts.
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The gentleman I bought my last 444 from had manual clutch problems. He spent a good amount of money to have an electric clutch professionally installed. Didn't make one trip around his yard mowing and the belt messed up. Parked the tractor beside the shed until I bought it for $80 two years later. The pulley on the clutch was so far forward, the belt almost rubbed the front axle support. It will be cheaper in the long run to do what's needed to correctly rebuild the manual clutch than mess with an electric. One thing to look for is grooves worn in the shaft where the bearings ride. If the grooves are deep, it may hinder getting the proper adjustment. rather than fighting it over and over, pull it down to the shaft and start from there. Keep parts in order as you pull it apart. subtle differences in the pulleys make a big difference in parts order, especially the shims. Keep us posted on what you find.
Re: How To Replace A PTO Clutch Disc
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I believe you might be right in saying the friction disc is worn beyond use. Mine is almost flush with the raised center of the pulley. i am going to try to locate the new parts and washers locally. Thanks I appreciate the pictures so I could see what a new one looks like. Mine is a 444 demonstrator.
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I believe you might be right in saying the friction disc is worn beyond use. Mine is almost flush with the raised center of the pulley. i am going to try to locate the new parts and washers locally. Thanks I appreciate the pictures so I could see what a new one looks like. Mine is a 444 demonstrator.
Re: How To Replace A PTO Clutch Disc
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It is highly unlikely that you will find those parts locally UNLESS you happen to have an authorized Ingersoll dealer nearby. FYI, Case has not supported these tractors since the mid-80's because they SOLD the division to Jack Ingersoll in late 1983. And if you did happen to find a Case dealer with some parts, more than likely you will pay a premium price for them.
Instead, I suggest that you go to the FAQ's section in the Library and find the document that shows the contact information for Ingersoll Dealers that are members here. Brian Hildreth will put those needed parts into the mail for you either the same day or the next day at the latest.
This post has been moved from the linked thread above to this thread.
It is highly unlikely that you will find those parts locally UNLESS you happen to have an authorized Ingersoll dealer nearby. FYI, Case has not supported these tractors since the mid-80's because they SOLD the division to Jack Ingersoll in late 1983. And if you did happen to find a Case dealer with some parts, more than likely you will pay a premium price for them.
Instead, I suggest that you go to the FAQ's section in the Library and find the document that shows the contact information for Ingersoll Dealers that are members here. Brian Hildreth will put those needed parts into the mail for you either the same day or the next day at the latest.
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