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I know you guys love your Shell oil for your Hydralic systems. I run a 15 -40 X- Bond Scheaffer oil in mine and i have used Schaeffer oil in everything i own for over 30 years! They Make a really good oil!
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I'm sure that they do.
We have never said that other brands could not be used. We have a FAQ that speaks about oil choice. Perhaps you should read it. We suggest using Shell's Rotella 15W40 or 30W because we know that it is a high quality oil that can be found all across the USA and Canada very easily and for a very competitive price. We also suggest using 20W50 but since Shell does not offer that grade, owners are free to find that product from another manufacturer that is well-known to produce a high quality oil. The Rotella can often be found in Walmart or any remaining Sam's Club stores. That makes it easy to find for most owners. On the other hand, the Schaeffer is mostly sold through places like NAPA and the distribution seems to be quite sparse according to their dealer locater.
When it comes to brands, it appears that the Schaeffer name is pretty much off the radar screen. That does not mean that there is anything wrong with the product, just their marketing.
We have never said that other brands could not be used. We have a FAQ that speaks about oil choice. Perhaps you should read it. We suggest using Shell's Rotella 15W40 or 30W because we know that it is a high quality oil that can be found all across the USA and Canada very easily and for a very competitive price. We also suggest using 20W50 but since Shell does not offer that grade, owners are free to find that product from another manufacturer that is well-known to produce a high quality oil. The Rotella can often be found in Walmart or any remaining Sam's Club stores. That makes it easy to find for most owners. On the other hand, the Schaeffer is mostly sold through places like NAPA and the distribution seems to be quite sparse according to their dealer locater.
When it comes to brands, it appears that the Schaeffer name is pretty much off the radar screen. That does not mean that there is anything wrong with the product, just their marketing.
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First time in 52 year's that I have even heard the name. As far as marketing ................
P.S. closest retailer is 200 miles from my front door.
P.S. closest retailer is 200 miles from my front door.
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We used to use Schaeffer's on the farm for everything but switched back to shell because its easier to get and cheaper. The main reason I switched was when I overhauled one of my CASE diesel farm tractors and because it is parrafin based like penzoil the whole engine was caked with buildup from the wax in the oil.
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Scheaffer contains micron Moly and more zinc Than the new Shell rotella Most people cant believe how clean the engine is when they tear them down! I had an 87 ford T- Bird turbo Coupe, it blew a head gaskit with 225 thousand miles on it .When the valve covers was removed absoulutly no sludge! While i had it apart i had the valves done! The machnist told me what ever i was doing to keep doing it! there is more than one big rig one the road with 1 million miles one it running Schaeffer with no teardown!
I don't dispute what you say, however you have to look at how Case owners use oil.
The Onan and Kohler engine manuals are very clear on this issue. If the temps are above freezing, then you use 30 weight oil and you change it every 25 hours.
The hydraulic system requires 20W40, 20W50, 30 or 15W40 in order to deliver maximum power to the rear wheels. That oil is supposed to be changed once per year or every 500 hours, whichever comes first. In truth, there is no real need to go with a more expensive oil than Shell's Rotella costs. There is no way for anyone to determine whether the Shaeffer is superior to Shell or not. I have yet to hear a report from an owner stating that their engine had major amounts of sludge inside of it. If you change the oil when you should, then you won't have oil-related problems.
When you consider how little oil is used in these tractors, all of this discussion about this oil being better than that oil is truly pointless and often leads to threads with flames emanating from it. If Schaeffer works for you, then by all means..... continue to use it. I am not going to try to talk you out of it because there is no valid reason to do so. On the flip side, we have a lot of member/owners who are very pleased with Rotella or some other brand. Oil is a personal choice and everyone should respect that, while others should stop proselytizing.
The Onan and Kohler engine manuals are very clear on this issue. If the temps are above freezing, then you use 30 weight oil and you change it every 25 hours.
The hydraulic system requires 20W40, 20W50, 30 or 15W40 in order to deliver maximum power to the rear wheels. That oil is supposed to be changed once per year or every 500 hours, whichever comes first. In truth, there is no real need to go with a more expensive oil than Shell's Rotella costs. There is no way for anyone to determine whether the Shaeffer is superior to Shell or not. I have yet to hear a report from an owner stating that their engine had major amounts of sludge inside of it. If you change the oil when you should, then you won't have oil-related problems.
When you consider how little oil is used in these tractors, all of this discussion about this oil being better than that oil is truly pointless and often leads to threads with flames emanating from it. If Schaeffer works for you, then by all means..... continue to use it. I am not going to try to talk you out of it because there is no valid reason to do so. On the flip side, we have a lot of member/owners who are very pleased with Rotella or some other brand. Oil is a personal choice and everyone should respect that, while others should stop proselytizing.
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When it comes to oil I believe 3 things.
1-Use good quality oil.
2-Change it often.
3-Arguing about it in forums is a waste of time.
1-Use good quality oil.
2-Change it often.
3-Arguing about it in forums is a waste of time.
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I don't need a lecture on what wieght oil to use in my Tractor! I can tell, you have no first hand knowledge of Scheaffer products
Fair enough. We aren't here to lecture you on anything. However, it was you that opened this topic in the first place. You told us about the existence of Schaeffer oil. You told us that you are happy with using it. The tractor belongs to you. Use whatever you wish in it. Simply put........ we don't allow debates about oil on this forum. They serve no useful purpose. You have been given the opportunity to school us about the qualities of the product and that's where it is going to end.hwcase 442 said:
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