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Yes.....I know that it's not even the mid-point of the winter yet and most of you guys are all focused on snow you don't have or snow you do have.

However.......before you know it, winter will turn to spring and then thoughts will turn to getting some sweet seat time keeping those blades of grass under control . Whether you realize it or not, NOW is the time to talk about your deck because NOW is when you have plenty of time to bring it down the basement where it's warm and make it ready for cutting season. It's shocking just how fast time flies by so pay attention.

One of the things that gets asked about all the time is MULCHING BLADES. Most of you guys have the earlier tractors with the left hand discharge decks. Those came in four cutting widths. 38", 44", 48" and 60" as do the RH decks. The best known mulching blade is from GATOR. They made ONE ONLY blade for LH Case decks and that one has been discontinued for some time. They MAY still have some sitting on their shelf in the stockroom gathering dust but when those are gone, that's it. So if you own a 44" deck and want mulching blades, you should call Gator directly right now.

There was another company that had aspirations of getting into the mulching blade biz but they disappeared off the landscape years ago. To the best of my knowledge, no one makes an after-market mulching blade for any Case or Ingersoll mower deck, either LH or RH. discharge. With that in mind, I was asking myself the other day just what I might be able to do in order to help you guys solve this problem. Oh...and it gets even worse for you LH deck users. TWO of the major aftermarket blade makers have discontinued all of the blades for the Case LH decks and once current inventory is gone, then that's it for them too.

There is another option, albeit not a cheap one initially but if you understand the concept of spending more upfront to buy a long-lasting superior product, then read on. This past Tuesday, I spent almost an hour talking long-distance with Roy Megli, the inventor and owner of the Meg-Mo blade system. What I like about Roy is that he was a farmer at one point and I have great respect for farmers. Nany interesting inventions happened because farmers said "There has to be a better way" and then kept at it until they made it happen.

That's how Roy's unique blade system came about. Roy informed me that there are only six companies here that make the blades for the entire marketplace and there is an unwritten agreement that none of them will use a higher quality steel than their competitors. Blades don't last because these guys don't want them to. It's all about selling you new blades as often as possible. As Roy so correctly stated to me, you might go out and buy a brand new $10,000.00 Ingersoll with a modern V-twin under the hood and all the latest improvements BUT... the cutting blades are no better than the ones on that 1965 130 Case you had for so many years.

Think about it. Have any of you seen a blade design that is markedly different to the ones you've been using and your dad was using before you? Only the Gator blade offered something different and purportedly better. Now don't get me wrong, Gator's do work but they get dull with use and most guys just sharpen the leading edges and don't understand that those teeth behind the leading edge must be sharpened too or the mulching action is lost. Those are a royal PITA to sharpen and very time-consuming to get right.

The beauty of the Meg-Mo system is that you get a superior mulching action and you just sharpen the leading edges of the blades. All Meg Mo blades are the exact same length. What changes is the diameter of the mounting disc for the blades I asked Roy if he could sell me blades for all the decks we used and he acknowledged that he could. I'm going to send Roy a sample blade so he can properly measure the drop because his discs are dead flat, I believe. Roy's blades are hardened to around 55 Rockwell while the blades you buy are around a 34 Rockwell.

Tough blades last a long time and they hold their edge longer too. So, there is an eventual payback for going with Roy's invention. You get a superior cut. You don't have to sharpen the blades near as often and replacement can be put off substantially. OK... I'm not going to deny the sticker shock here but Roy's been making and selling these blades for around 17 years. If they did not do what Roy claims, then he'd have been out of business years ago. I've invited Roy to come to our forum and share his vast experience with setting up mower decks with all of you.

In addition to owning and operating the Meg-Mo blade company, Roy has also run a large lawn maintenance business all these years. I don't think that anyone is going to teach Roy much about mower decks as he is now in his mid-70's. First of all, here's the link to Roy's web site.

http://www.meg-mo.com

If you look down the left column, you will see an icon in the shape of a camera. If you click on it, you can watch a video of his blades in action on a ZTR. I'm going to send Roy a link to our site tonight and ask him to join so he can come to this thread and talk to you guys about leveling your deck and the relationship of your blades to the leading edge of your deck.

So please take a good look at Roy's site and his video. You know that you want a nice smooth cut and you don't want to bag, rake or sweep. If you don't need to buy a Hydra-Bagger or a sweeper, then factor in those savings along with the aggravation that often goes with dealing with the grass clippings before you write this system off as being too expensive.

Keep an eye on this thread. It won't be hard to figure out when Roy is here but in the meantime, feel free to pose your questions in advance for Roy to answer.

Oh and one more thing. This thread is not about whether you buy Roy's system. It's primarily about learning how to get the best out of your deck no matter what you use for blades. All of you guys should be lining up here to learn from an expert who has willingly come here to educate you. This is a super opportunity so don't miss out. Roy is in his slow season right now and I'm not going to be able to get him back in the spring. So if you blow this now, you may regret it later. :thumbsup:
 

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Howdy Roy Thanks for helping us out coming blade problem. I have 44 left discharge and 48 right hand. Also have 60 inch dixie chopper so I need deal lol. Are blades same on all disc and are these disc hay mower blades? The dixie chopper has mulching deck all others don't will thi a different in your product?

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What about us rear discharge guys? I don't mind using the sweeper but if I could avoid it I would be interested. I probably have one more season left in my blades before I need to find a replacement set.

These would be of the LH rotation variety.
 

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Hydriv said:
Roy's blades are hardened to around 55 Rockwell while the blades you buy are around a 34 Rockwell.
That's great to hear! 58-62 is the range for good outdoor knives, any harder and you'd risk chipping or fracturing.

I've read about the Meg-mo blades on a few forums, and I've yet to see anything less than glowing. I have them bookmarked for when I get my deck. Thanks for bring the man himself here! :thumbsup:

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What about us rear discharge guys?
Imodium.

Sorry, I just couldn't let that go by! :crazy:
 

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Maybe Roy would like to make the 1 hr trek from his place to the Cherry Valley show to bring a few samples and show off his stuff.
 

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I'm looking forward to Roy's advice.

One thing I noticed with the particular set of Gator blades that I have is that the steel is harder than the other mower blades I have. I really can't sharpen mine with a hand file. I use a 1" wide chromium oxide belt on my stationary belt sander to get that job done. Other mower deck blades that I have can be reshaped quite redily with a hand file. I don't have a Rockwell machine to quantify that observation, but you can, "feel it in the file" so to speak.
 

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Now Tom, you know most of us working fellas dont ever get our decks ready until the grass is knee high-and our snowcasters have to be put on as the snow falls!!!!Good info on the blade system-I will check into seeing if he has them for my Yazoo deck also.
 

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I also have rear discharge mower deck (M45) and will be restoring it this spring. I bought some $50 blades for it last spring and they are already junk. I think they are made out of Chinesium
 

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Maybe Roy would like to make the 1 hr trek from his place to the Cherry Valley show to bring a few samples and show off his stuff.
I spoke to Roy about this tonight. PM me with Dan's contact info. Name, address, phone, e-mail and I will pass it on to Roy. He wants to go to that show as it's very close to him.
 

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Roy phoned me around seven or so and he had been at a trade show all day. He has joined our forum as "Roy", read the thread and will post ASAP. He's quite excited about doing this but Roy's not as adept on forums as the rest of you guys so be gentle.

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Hy folks. I am not a person who can type very well but I will try. We make more than 19000 blades and we get asked about mowers I have never heard of all the time. The OEM people just keep making different blade shapes all the time so that means no after market blades for some decks. We do make blades from 13 1/2" long to 36" long. I thought when I made the MEG MO blades and they worked so well we would get OEM's to use them but some say they make more money on replacement parts then they do in selling the mowers.

The average person that buys our blade set-up uses them for around 5 years before they need new knives and then we charge only $4.95 per blade. Dealers just don't like that because they like high parts sales. We ship world wide with-in 10 days most of the time. In April to Aug. I will spend about 3000 minutes a month on my cell phone talking with customers just like you. The addition of our blade system will make most mowers twice as good as they were previously. I have not cleaned a deck for the last 18 yrs.

No lumps or clumps coming from the deck whether the grass is wet or dry. Grass blades are cut up 4 or 5 times more by our blade system before being blown out the discharge chute instead of being thrown out like the OEM blades do . I have not put a bearing in a deck as there is no shock going to the bearings because our blades swing out of the way when they hit an obstacle.

We use to catch all the grass in our lawn cutting service prior to using the Meg-Mo blades but we have not used catchers for the last 16 years. No need to rake leaves any more. There may be a lot of typing errors but I will type more later. Thanks for letting me toot my whistle. :thumbsup:

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I will be using this system assuming that they will work on a rear discharge deck. Stay tuned for a build thread on the mower deck.
 

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I will be using this system assuming that they will work on a rear discharge deck. Stay tuned for a build thread on the mower deck.
It will work on 45 deck, no problem.
 

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Will this system work on the 60" timed deck? If they will I would think that it will very little margin for error on the timing.
 

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That's a very interesting question. I'm sure that Roy will have an answer because we are not the only brand that uses timed blades.
 

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I spoke with Roy last night. He's been tied up with attending various shows. However, he will be back shortly to address the individual questions posed by members. We are also working with Roy to help him with a few questions he has about the various Colt, Case and Ingersoll decks and the blades used by those decks over the past 48 years.

As many of us know, finding accurate information is often difficult. Imagine the problems faced by someone like Roy who is trying to make blades for all kinds of brands that exist today as well as brands that no longer exist. It's a daunting task.
 

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I will be sending Roy a blade from my M45 deck today so he can make up blades that will work on our decks. Maybe all the toys that my kids leave in the grass will survive with these new blades. Hot wheels cars and action figures have no chance at life when I start mowing. :lol:
 

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gator_rider2 said:
Howdy Roy Thanks for helping us out coming blade problem. I have 44 left discharge and 48 right hand. Also have 60 inch dixie chopper so I need deal lol. Are blades same on all disc and are these disc hay mower blades? The dixie chopper has mulching deck all others don't will thi a different in your product?

Thanks gator
Gator,

The blades for the Case 44" left discharge deck take (3) 15 5/8" long blades with a 1 1/4" center hole and (2) 3/8" holes 2 5/8" apart.

The Ingersoll 48" right discharge deck takes (3) 17" long with a 7/8 by 1 1/4' center hole which we will make 1 1/4" round.

The Dixie Chopper takes (3) 20 1/2" long blades with a 5/8" center hole and you can open the deck and do a better job.

The knives on the MEG MO systems are made exclusively for us. Being free-swing, we can make the knives a lot better and harder than other brands and therefore, they last longer.
 
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