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Wheel Weights are for Wimps.

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OK... Just kidding... I don't happen to have any for my 646, but I do have this hunk o' cast iron... :thumbup:

So then... Being a Series B, it has those handy backhoe mounting tabs... Add a little 1/2" x 3" steel bar, and work one around the motor...



Add a little frame to the top to keep things from tipping back...


Get the forklift to pick up the counterweight, and bolt it in place...



Needless to say, I don't think I'll be sliding around much... The counterweight weighs in right at 500#. For those that might not know, it is the OEM counterweight that hangs under the front axle on the later 600 series backhoes...
As another plus to having that much weight on the rear, the steering without a load in the bucket becomes much easier... Not like the zero effort of my backhoe unit, but then that means I'll have a little more down pressure to scrape the snow/ice.

This brings my small fleet up to winter readiness... Only thing left is to replace the weak battery in my other 646 at home which doesn't get the nice cushy heated warehouse to live in this one has...

Let the winter begin!
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Take ALL unnecessary weight off the front end. The loader by itself supplies all the weight needed up there. If you build a semi permanent weight box on the back keep the weight as close to the rear wheels as possible.
What he said!
Why cut any off? That's 500# right there, and it wasn't all that complicated to make the support frame for it. Your tractor can use every bit of that 500#, and then some.
My thought is that I need the existing arms or frame of the counterweight that extend past the rear of the tractor to mount a weight box that will contain the larger portion of the counterweight. The extension also was where the backhoe was mounted at one time. Without those arms, there's only about a 3 inch extension beyond the rear of the tractor. Plus, I figure that re-attaching the original counterweight frame underneath the tractor will provide better support with less stress on the rear end itself. I plan to build the weight box out of 1/2 to 3/4 inch plate steel for added weight. I have one set of wheel weights (about 80 lbs total) and fluid in the tires, but even with that, as you say, I need additional weight on the rear. I know you used the counterweight on the rear a couple of years ago. I'd welcome more info and pictures of your set up. Thanks!
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Right... Never put the photos back up after the Photobucket debacle...
Support frame is 1/2" x 3" with an offset on the left one to fit around the drive motor. Upper support is either 1/8 or 1/4 material/angle. Whatever I had hanging around...
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Thank you! This is great!! The photos really help. I think I'll try to follow your set up. :clap:
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Lately I have seen exercise equipment weight for sale at a very reasonable price or in some cases free. These here were located local to me for $15. Just a thought for members looking to add weight to the rear in a weight box, or get creative and fabricate a bracket for the front to hold them.

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Harry
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They need to be kept dry and out of the sun. If moisture gets in the they will swell and break, UV will attack the plastic.At least with the round ones :(

Gordy
Yea, exercise gear is a good source... I've got a stack of old cast iron barbell weights on a cut down bar hanging on the front of our MF202.
I recently saw a couple 800# slabs of iron on CL down in Maryland. Guessing they might be from a smaller crane, but doesn't really matter. I would have loved to grab them, but my trailer is buried under 2' of snow 200' away from the cleared driveway behind the iceberg... I doubt they'll sell too fast, so I'm hoping they're still available after I melt off... Not that I would be using those pigs with the Case, they'd be going on the back of something a tad larger......
Right... Never put the photos back up after the Photobucket debacle...
Support frame is 1/2" x 3" with an offset on the left one to fit around the drive motor. Upper support is either 1/8 or 1/4 material/angle. Whatever I had hanging around...
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It's been a while now, but I ended up mounting the underslung counterweight to the rear of my 6018 that no longer sports the backhoe which required the counterweight near the front of the tractor. I took Toolslinger's approach and modified it a bit. I removed the counterweight from the mounting arms and made a spacer for the front of the arms that is the same width as the weight. Then I mounted the arms to the tractor as per the factory placement. To the rear of the arms that extend out from the rear of the tractor that originally served as the mounting place for the backhoe, I added a 3/4 inch steel plate that also included 3/4 inch mounting brackets and a rear hitch for a trailer ball or clevis. I then set the counter weight onto the mounted plate, only I put the butt end of it down on the plate (an alternative to Toolslinger's placement). I added 1 inch angle iron on the bottom plate to serve to keep the weight in position, and also used 1 inch square tubing bolted underneath the seat to steady the weight. These brackets are bolted to the weight using some of the original weight mounting holes. I added two 2 inch heavy steel pipes as uprights to carry tools such as a shovel or rake. Another cross piece of angle iron serves as a mounting place for a set of LED lights to provide rear lighting. Later, I added a metal ammo box to carry a log chain, rope, gloves, clevis, etc.

Having the "counter weight" repositioned to the rear of the tractor has made a tremendous difference in the tractor's traction and use of the front-end loader. My thanks to Toolslinger for the idea!
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I have a 6018 that had the backhoe removed some years ago by another owner before my time. So, I have just the FEL. Since the monster, underslung counterweight that was intended to balance the backhoe hanging off the rear of the tractor is no longer needed for that purpose, I'm considering cutting the largest part of the weight off the counterweight frame assembly and then building a plate steel box on the rear arms where the backhoe would have attached, and adding the cut off weight there. Has anyone else done something like that? Tips? Cautions?
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Don’t cut it up, send it to me. People are probably looking for this stuff.
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