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Just happened to have a wheel off of my truck in the garage and put it beside my 444. It’s a 215/85R16 looks pretty close. Put a bar on top and it looks pretty level
 

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I was reading this and was wounder how you like the mud tires on the tractor? Compared to stock turf are they better in mud and snow? Are the mud tires good on the lawn? (not tearing it up etc.)

I am asking because here in Michigan (like all of us in the north) have snow and mud season and I would like a bit more traction with out getting into Ag tires and chains. ( are Ag tires good in snow?)
 
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I was reading this and was wounder how you like the mud tires on the tractor? Compared to stock turf are they better in mud and snow? Are the mud tires good on the lawn? (not tearing it up etc.)

I am asking because here in Michigan (like all of us in the north) have snow and mud season and I would like a bit more traction with out getting into Ag tires and chains. ( are Ag tires good in snow?)
Hi Chad, not sure who you're directing your question to. Mud? Curious ... What do you have to do in the mud that can't wait?

I really like our stock turfs and like you, don't want to go full ag lug but I get that conventional chains can be a pain.

One of these days I'm gonna try a set of these. Super easy to install.

https://www.peerlesschain.com/brands/traction-product-choices/super-z/
 
I was reading this and was wounder how you like the mud tires on the tractor? Compared to stock turf are they better in mud and snow? Are the mud tires good on the lawn? (not tearing it up etc.)

I am asking because here in Michigan (like all of us in the north) have snow and mud season and I would like a bit more traction with out getting into Ag tires and chains. ( are Ag tires good in snow?)
This is just a general question for those in the group who have some experience with different tires on the Big wheel tractors.

Not that I am going mudding it just happens on my property normally with little or no warning.

Thank you All for your thoughts.
 
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Summarizing ...

The goal, is to find as close to stock fit and tread. More aggressive than stock could be good but not ags.

In post #7 of this thread I CAREFULLY measured original tires and came up with a dia. of 31.12" and a mounted max width, of 9.25"

It is likely the rims would be called 8".

Its hard to argue that based on the pics in post 21 in the same thread, that 215/85-16s wouldn't be a good choice.

But I'm wondering about them fitting on an 8" rim.

This tire size tool tells us that 235/85-16 would be a tad big but based on lots of looking at tire specs, would have a better chance of fitting an 8" rim.

https://tiresize.com/chart/

In post 22 and 23, Bob and I found 2 new versions of turf, ag hybrids but so far, not in our size and when they come, likely quite expensive.

But I found this,

https://www.amazon.com/Cavalry-RL12...zUmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Can't find out much about them. They get good reviews but you know how that can be. SimpleTire, gives a boiler plate description ... Chinese, high quality, performance, blah, blah but the tread pattern resembles a turf ag hybrid pretty nicely.

More reading, says that Mud tires are made of softer rubber than ATs.

I haven't found anything in that size, with anything like an aggressive tread, that isn't 10 ply. Even a lot of the highway tires are. Maybe the softer rubber would help off set that.

The ride is important to me. Gator has frequently mentioned running 10 plys at zero psi. Sounds hard to believe but I'm in no position to argue with him.

Upsizing the tire might make chains tough to fit but I've been wanting a reason to try the cable chains anyway.

Thoughts?
 
Hi Dave,
I just looked at my spares and you are correct, they are marked "16X8LB". LB as in load range B. I did have a pair of 16X7LB here a while back and I thought that they were stock Ingersolls, but probably not, I don't recall whose tractor it was. Simpletire is the only place that I have seen 4 ply 16" tires.
If I inflate my turfs to 8PSI and measure them and then inflate to 15PSI which is the pressure that I usually run them at, then they grow an inch in diameter. This is measured not on the tractor. Just trying to come up with possible 4 ply tires that the diameters and widths are close to the stock turfs and chains that have been on the turfs will go onto without much modification. The pair of Titan Ag lugs that I had were 10 ply and they rode hard as a rock and the vibration was painful! My 448 had Goodyear turfs and my 4018 has Armstrong turfs and although both were 8.00X16 2 ply, they were slightly different in diameter when inflated to 8PSI and then 15PSI and not on the tractors. Mower deck front to rear leveling is the only situation that may need to be addressed when replacing rear tires that are close to the dimensions of the turfs.
OK, I'm done!:geek::mowlawn::mrgreen:
 
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