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Well, I have had several Case and Case Ingersolls, and Ingersolls. It all started when I moved to Southern Ohio and was looking for a mower for my yard. I stopped by the "Case Power" dealer and they showed me a "444 Demonstrator" that had been out as a Demo item a few times, equiped with a 48" deck, a 3 point hitch, and a center drive tiller. I loved that tractor! My father-in-law in NW Indiana came to visit soon after the 444 arrived at my place. When he got there I had just finished mowing my yard, and changed over to the tiller while he watched. At that time he had recently bought a new 400 JD with 60" deck and a heavy tiller (PTO driveshaft).

He watched me drop my deck and backed over to the tiller, dropped two pins in the 3 point hitch, plugged the hoses in and was ready to head for the garden. He commented something to the effect "I couldn't do that with my JD", and I asked him what he was talking about> He said "it would have taken me a half hour to take the driveshaft off the deck and get the mower deck out from under it". I had accomplished my task in about 15 minutes and hadn't hurried to accomplish that task. He did question my backing over the deck, rather than pulling it out from underneath. The JD deck was a pressed 60" deck.

My garden had been plowed by my neighbor with his 6 bottom plow and it wasn't totally even because it was very small to be doing with a 6 bottom plow. I went out to test the tiller out with FIL watching and almost as soon as I started he commented "I can't do that with my JD400 and tiller". What he couldn't do was with the clearance of the Demo 444 He couldn't straddle the plow furrows like I did. His comment was to the effect that the JD 400 didn't have the clearance that the 444 had and he would have been stuck on top of the furrow. To finish this part quickly: He did say since his Heavy JD tiller was better built than my center drive tiller, that his would probably outlast mine. He was right! I sold my tiller after 38 years and got a side drive tiller! His was around till we buried him 3 years ago! The guy who bought my old tiller is still using it today.

After I moved to Southern Michigan in 1989 I bought a 224 prior to bringing the 444 North. I loved that little thing! Man did it scoot across the yard! I had it around for a couple of years and finally sold it because with the tiller with 3 point the 444 was more versatile for what I was wanting to do. A few years later, I bought a 448 with the stylized hood that had been re-engined with a Linamar 770, switched the 3 point hitch over to it, and never looked back. Sold the 444. That Onan engine sure runs smooth compared to the Kohler! I have had a few other 448's, 446's, 3016, and a 4020. I have the original 448, and another one just like it that I currently use regularly. As some of you know I also have a 4118 "All Hydraulic" that is for sale, and my 4020 is torn apart currently redoing it just like I did with the 4118.

I have the 48" decks on most of the time, but have run the 60" decks at times. I really like the 60" decks and they do a real nice job. I run the 48" decks BC I have a "leafvac" for fall weather. When I am done putting the 4020 back together I will have the newer style 3 point, and hydraulics under the seat. That will give me the ability to mow and Mold Board plow, or till with either style 448, or 4020. I have 48", or 60" decks for both styles, I will have 3 points for either style, I have Snowblowers for either style. I am hooked on the high profile tractors!

The 4118 has hooked me on the Idea of a 4020 with power steering!
To bad you didnt keep that 444 demo very desirable now
 
To bad you didnt keep that 444 demo very desirable now
Well, I have had several Case and Case Ingersolls, and Ingersolls. It all started when I moved to Southern Ohio and was looking for a mower for my yard. I stopped by the "Case Power" dealer and they showed me a "444 Demonstrator" that had been out as a Demo item a few times, equiped with a 48" deck, a 3 point hitch, and a center drive tiller. I loved that tractor! My father-in-law in NW Indiana came to visit soon after the 444 arrived at my place. When he got there I had just finished mowing my yard, and changed over to the tiller while he watched. At that time he had recently bought a new 400 JD with 60" deck and a heavy tiller (PTO driveshaft).

He watched me drop my deck and backed over to the tiller, dropped two pins in the 3 point hitch, plugged the hoses in and was ready to head for the garden. He commented something to the effect "I couldn't do that with my JD", and I asked him what he was talking about> He said "it would have taken me a half hour to take the driveshaft off the deck and get the mower deck out from under it". I had accomplished my task in about 15 minutes and hadn't hurried to accomplish that task. He did question my backing over the deck, rather than pulling it out from underneath. The JD deck was a pressed 60" deck.

My garden had been plowed by my neighbor with his 6 bottom plow and it wasn't totally even because it was very small to be doing with a 6 bottom plow. I went out to test the tiller out with FIL watching and almost as soon as I started he commented "I can't do that with my JD400 and tiller". What he couldn't do was with the clearance of the Demo 444 He couldn't straddle the plow furrows like I did. His comment was to the effect that the JD 400 didn't have the clearance that the 444 had and he would have been stuck on top of the furrow. To finish this part quickly: He did say since his Heavy JD tiller was better built than my center drive tiller, that his would probably outlast mine. He was right! I sold my tiller after 38 years and got a side drive tiller! His was around till we buried him 3 years ago! The guy who bought my old tiller is still using it today.

After I moved to Southern Michigan in 1989 I bought a 224 prior to bringing the 444 North. I loved that little thing! Man did it scoot across the yard! I had it around for a couple of years and finally sold it because with the tiller with 3 point the 444 was more versatile for what I was wanting to do. A few years later, I bought a 448 with the stylized hood that had been re-engined with a Linamar 770, switched the 3 point hitch over to it, and never looked back. Sold the 444. That Onan engine sure runs smooth compared to the Kohler! I have had a few other 448's, 446's, 3016, and a 4020. I have the original 448, and another one just like it that I currently use regularly. As some of you know I also have a 4118 "All Hydraulic" that is for sale, and my 4020 is torn apart currently redoing it just like I did with the 4118.

I have the 48" decks on most of the time, but have run the 60" decks at times. I really like the 60" decks and they do a real nice job. I run the 48" decks BC I have a "leafvac" for fall weather. When I am done putting the 4020 back together I will have the newer style 3 point, and hydraulics under the seat. That will give me the ability to mow and Mold Board plow, or till with either style 448, or 4020. I have 48", or 60" decks for both styles, I will have 3 points for either style, I have Snowblowers for either style. I am hooked on the high profile tractors!

The 4118 has hooked me on the Idea of a 4020 with power steering!
Seebee, do you know where that 444 Demo went? I recently bought one out to Gallia Co Ohio.. Maybe??
 
Dave, That was probably 80-82, so it was quite awhile ago. I put it up for sale on ebay and within 15 minutes somebody bought it. Turns out his family had a Case dealership at one point in time and he certainly Understood what that demo was. Had the full decals including on top of fenders and the hood. Sunset yellow, Flambo or Power Red (probably Flambo, and the black decals. The original engine had gotten tired, and I bought a new shortblock, but had not installed it. I was honest with him that there was no Serial number plate on the tractor and he said "no problem" Took it home to NW Michigan somewhere.

About six months later a guy from Pennsylvania called me and wanted the serial plate. I told him it had never been on it during the time I had owned it. He was a collector that used to post on the old site prior to this one. He was into buying them while they were still in the original crate when possible. I think he was from the Pittsburgh area. I wonder if they were stamping the numbers on the front axle at that time?

The 444 Demo was obviously original if one just looked at it. It had not been redone. But still looked nice. Patena?

Bill
 
Of my 6 3 digit Case tractors, the 69 444 would be my favorite complete with cab and blade, showcases and hydraulic rototiller (ni mower...l am built on rock). I also have a 195 which despite it's weakness in rear axles is fun as well. I am more a fan of Kohler cast iron one lunger motors than Onan. I agree that a 4 wheel drive one would have been ideal so l luckily found a 96 Honda 5013 in five foot tall grass with the rubber pretty well rotted of it ftom sitting for 5 years. It started within 1/2 an hour of carb clean and fresh gas and new battery. Their 13 hp motors are awesome and with the 4 wheel drive drive 8 speed transmission and all wheel steering it does everything the Case can't.
 
Of my 6 3 digit Case tractors, the 69 444 would be my favorite complete with cab and blade, snowcaster and hydraulic rototiller (ni mower...l am built on rock). I also have a 195 which despite it's weakness in rear axles is fun as well. I am more a fan of Kohler cast iron one lunger motors than Onan. I agree that a 4 wheel drive one would have been ideal so l luckily found a 96 Honda 5013 in five foot tall grass with the rubber pretty well rotted of it ftom sitting for 5 years. It started within 1/2 an hour of carb clean and fresh gas and new battery. Their 13 hp motors are awesome and with the 4 wheel drive drive 8 speed transmission and all wheel steering it does everything the Case can't.
 
Of my 6 3 digit Case tractors, the 69 444 would be my favorite complete with cab and blade, snowcaster and hydraulic rototiller (no mower...l am built on rock). I also have a 195 which despite it's weakness in rear axles is fun as well. I am more a fan of Kohler cast iron one lunger motors than Onan. I agree that a 4 wheel drive one would have been ideal so l luckily found a 96 Honda 5013 in five foot tall grass with the rubber pretty well rotted off of it from sitting for 5 years. It started within 1/2 an hour of carb clean and fresh gas and new battery. Their 13 hp motors are awesome and with the 4 wheel drive drive 8 speed transmission and 4 wheel steering it does everything the Case can't.
 
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Goal completed....I enjoyed reading all these comments. 26 replies and 13 participant's. Interesting to read what peoples favorite tractor is and what is important to them. Sometimes it just nostalgia......Thanks guys for making this a fun weekend question!!
 
Dave, That was probably 80-82, so it was quite awhile ago. I put it up for sale on ebay and within 15 minutes somebody bought it. Turns out his family had a Case dealership at one point in time and he certainly Understood what that demo was. Had the full decals including on top of fenders and the hood. Sunset yellow, Flambo or Power Red (probably Flambo, and the black decals. The original engine had gotten tired, and I bought a new shortblock, but had not installed it. I was honest with him that there was no Serial number plate on the tractor and he said "no problem" Took it home to NW Michigan somewhere.

About six months later a guy from Pennsylvania called me and wanted the serial plate. I told him it had never been on it during the time I had owned it. He was a collector that used to post on the old site prior to this one. He was into buying them while they were still in the original crate when possible. I think he was from the Pittsburgh area. I wonder if they were stamping the numbers on the front axle at that time?

The 444 Demo was obviously original if one just looked at it. It had not been redone. But still looked nice. Patena?

Bill
The demo that I bought out of Gallia county was a Black Knight... yours obviously was a Golden demo. so different tractor.
 
Mock395, Dave was the first word of my post. My name is Bil Moyer, and I was Stationed in Rhode Island and was with Nmcb6 (or MCB6) from Feb 1969 until they were decommissioned in Dec 1969, due to reduction in manpower. We were to have deployed to Vietnam in September/October 1969 but that was the beginning of our reduction in Manpower (pull out from Vietnam). I was transferred to Nmcb71 who was currently in Puerto Rico.

They realized in October 1970 that I was not going to reenlist for a further 4 years. I didn't have enough months left on my enlistment for them to deploy me anywhere so, due to the continued reduction in Manpower, I was sent home October 16th, 1970.

I did serve in a Reserve MCB that was Stationed in Glenview Naval Airstation Illinois for a couple years afterward. Most of our weekend drills were at Camp Atterbuery near Columbus, Indiana.

Bill Moyer
 
Mock395, Dave was the first word of my post. My name is Bil Moyer, and I was Stationed in Rhode Island and was with Nmcb6 (or MCB6) from Feb 1969 until they were decommissioned in Dec 1969, due to reduction in manpower. We were to have deployed to Vietnam in September/October 1969 but that was the beginning of our reduction in Manpower (pull out from Vietnam). I was transferred to Nmcb71 who was currently in Puerto Rico.

They realized in October 1970 that I was not going to reenlist for a further 4 years. I didn't have enough months left on my enlistment for them to deploy me anywhere so, due to the continued reduction in Manpower, I was sent home October 16th, 1970.

I did serve in a Reserve MCB that was Stationed in Glenview Naval Airstation Illinois for a couple years afterward. Most of our weekend drills were at Camp Atterbuery near Columbus, Indiana.

Bill Moyer
Very cool. I got deployed to Afghanistan, did every job but my rate! UT 14 years i put in. Couldn't get promoted due to quotas. Of race related junk. So I threw in the towel. Even though I was a master plumber when I joined.. great experience though. Meet alot of great guys and still talk to a few regularly. Can do!
 
Yes a great topic and I throughly enjoyed the read. Harry
 
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